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158270.17 in reply to 158270.16
Date: 10/1/2010 8:31:48 PM
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but what if soemone bid just a high salary so that the seller get low selling price, i don
t like it that way.

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Date: 10/2/2010 2:38:15 PM
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but what if soemone bid just a high salary so that the seller get low selling price, i don
t like it that way.

uh?

didn't I state the seller has to give a minimum bonus he wants to receive for the player?

meaning:
bid 1: bonus for owner: 100k, wage 50k, bonus for player 10k, contract for 3 years.
bid 2: bonus for owner: 300k, wage 20k, bonus for player 20k, contract for 3 years.
bid 3: bonus for owner:700k, wage 5k, bonus for player 50k, contract for 3 years.

now let's say the owner demands a bid of at least 250k.

Then bid 1 with the high wage, the one the player would like best, can not be accepted because the owning team doesn't get the money he wants.

an other example that you might bring in as disturbing is a very high price for the owner, to make sure you get the player and then pay low wages: bid 3, will also be declined because the player thinks the wage is to low (set up by the system, this player wants a minimum of 15k wage).

Bid 2 COULD be accepted.
It could also be that the player wants a bonus of minimum 10k for each contractyear, and then none of the bids are accepted and the bidders get the following text:
bidder 1: the owner of the lpayer didn't want to let him go for your offered price
bidder 2: the player didn't like the bonus you offered and declined the offer
bidder 3: the player didn't like the wage and declined your offer

likewise could a younger player, with high potential want to sign a contract of 2 years max, and decline because you offered 5 years. Older player like stability and are likely to reject contracts of 1 year, and are willing to accept 5 year contracts with lesser wage, because they then are sure of 5 years playing...

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158270.19 in reply to 158270.18
Date: 10/2/2010 2:42:23 PM
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but wouldn't that rise the wages additionally, because of the mionimum salary which you don't know but have to bid?

From: Kukoc
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Date: 10/2/2010 4:41:24 PM
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This contract bidding just does not work in multiuser games. If you need to set up minimum wage anyway, then the new system would not be an improvement. If you make best players accept wages in the lowest (just so they would get to play) creates a bigger problem than the current overflow of high waged centers.
We would have D1 teams with late signings of low waged superb players. Paying less salary and making more income than div2 teams, that can not get their hands on those players because of the "I'd rather play in divI" clause. Bringing flexible contracts into this game will ruin everything and this games user numbers will crash in 3 months. I guarantee it. Even if you remove the clause, another problem arises. DivIV teams having 5 NT team players with low wage, kicking divI teams butts.

From: aigidios

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Date: 10/2/2010 5:19:33 PM
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We would have D1 teams with late signings of low waged superb players. Paying less salary and making more income than div2 teams,


Youre right, but I wouldnt worry about that. Is true that there would be clever teams strictly turned into late singings, so would have all players superb for like nothing. And there would be even stupid teams which could sing some contracts and change theirs mind. That could lead into long-therm suffering with seasons of waiting before these players can be fired or sold.

I think this can be fixed by that team could have limited capacity for a contracts. Lets say totally 25 seasons. So if you have 5 players with 5 year contract therm, every other player will be paid normally as usuall (so you couldnt sing any contract with the rest).

This way offers some kind of space for a new teams in that division. Also I think that some superb players could be flattered to play in quality 2nd league.

Last edited by aigidios at 10/2/2010 5:20:27 PM

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158270.22 in reply to 158270.21
Date: 10/2/2010 5:26:47 PM
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5 year contract without new salary assigments? Hopefully not.

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158270.23 in reply to 158270.22
Date: 10/2/2010 7:40:11 PM
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This labyrinthine system is not needed. Simply change the salary formula either so the top players only earn around $200-300,000 a week or put in a hard salary cap somewhere in the same range as I suggested in the other thread. This would affect very few players and would have no effect on new players and not change the basic structury of BB at all.

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158270.24 in reply to 158270.23
Date: 10/3/2010 5:03:58 AM
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i believe it isn't that simply, imagine you change it to the next season. So mayn guys who spend 1 Mio for a high salry guy now have a player who is worth several millions. I think there is an problem with should be solved but you should make it slowly with small steps over several millions so that the value of those player not dramatically increase.

Or we should wait what the dynamic salary system make, don't forget that most of div 1 leagues don't get close to the final point and are still earning a lot of money ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 10/3/2010 5:04:45 AM

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158270.25 in reply to 158270.22
Date: 10/3/2010 5:29:58 AM
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5 year contract without new salary assigments? Hopefully not.


Well, that would be great if limited somehow. I think that managers should pay for a bad decision (while are getting payback about good decision) and player needs some time in the field before will reason about a possible prolonged contract.

Last edited by aigidios at 10/3/2010 5:30:34 AM

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158270.26 in reply to 158270.25
Date: 10/3/2010 5:38:13 AM
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so paying 10k for 500k center is ok?

From: Marot

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Date: 10/3/2010 9:36:19 AM
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The shame is that the potencials hall of famer and legendary are a bluff.

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