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16515.17 in reply to 16515.15
Date: 2/26/2008 11:54:25 AM
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It is good to add fanbase, but the fact is no one will know theirs since it is constantly changing, and it is only shown at season start what it is at that point. The rest of the season it is going up and down without us seeing it...


What do you mean by 'fanbase'? I do not believe such a term exists in BB. It is not season ticket holders, for those are determined at the outset of a season and do not change until the next season.



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16515.18 in reply to 16515.5
Date: 2/26/2008 2:17:25 PM
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Division: III
PR Staff Level: 6
Season Tickets Owners: 1,072

Bleachers: 6,000 (currently expanding to 7,020)
Price: $12
Filling rate: 100%

Lower Tier: 800
Price: $45
Filling rate: 83.6%

Courtside: 170
Price: $133
Filling rate: 84.7%

Luxury: 10
Price: $840
Filling rate: 90%

This is only after one home game, and I went ahead and provided my filling rates for each individual section, rather than the arena as a whole. This data is going to fluctuate depending on ticket prices, whether the team is winning or losing, results of previous TV and Cup games, opponent's previous results and current league standing, season ticket holders, PR staff lvl, etc. I'm really not sure what you're trying to get out of this data (but I hope you've upgraded your PR guy).

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16515.19 in reply to 16515.17
Date: 2/27/2008 2:59:00 AM
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What do you mean by 'fanbase'? I do not believe such a term exists in BB. It is not season ticket holders, for those are determined at the outset of a season and do not change until the next season.



right, season ticket holders
Was this by incidence fanbase the previous season? I wonder where I get that word.

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16515.20 in reply to 16515.16
Date: 2/27/2008 7:43:00 AM
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I think yanivsag makes an interesting point here! It is not about how much one sells but rather it is about the percentages. It does seem that in the initial arena's of 5000 seats the sourtside seats ratio is mostly undervalued. If this research can determine the ratio's than a decent arena can be built. Of course there will always be fluctuations in spectators due to changing performances but if ratio's are applied you at least make a rational decision to maximize profits based on a solid argument.

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16515.21 in reply to 16515.19
Date: 2/27/2008 8:22:58 AM
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Since you mean 'season ticket holders' you should remember the number of season ticket holders does not change during the season.

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16515.23 in reply to 16515.21
Date: 2/27/2008 8:58:09 AM
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Since you mean 'season ticket holders' you should remember the number of season ticket holders does not change during the season.

okay, have it your way... ;)

season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.
Season ticket holders does not change during the season, but fanbase is!
Your crowd depends on your fanbase.

Hope I get it correct this time!

Further, there is no set % for the seats like in Hattrick, here your higher priced seats will sell about the same every game, while your lower cost seats vary from selling out 1 evening, and staying half empty the other evening.

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16515.24 in reply to 16515.23
Date: 2/27/2008 7:48:28 PM
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season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.
Season ticket holders does not change during the season, but fanbase is!
Your crowd depends on your fanbase.


I'm not picking on you, but can you show me where the rules refer to this?

If it is there, I would like to know more about it.

I cannot find any reference to anything like this in the rules.

I do understand that crowds fluctuate with wins, but I don't see where 'fanbase' is explained.

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16515.25 in reply to 16515.24
Date: 2/27/2008 8:10:35 PM
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I don't think season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season. The season ticket holders are the diehard fans that will come to your games no matter how good our badly you are playing. Everyone else comes based on how well you are playing.

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16515.26 in reply to 16515.25
Date: 2/27/2008 8:11:26 PM
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Speaking of season ticket holders, wouldn't they pay for their season ticket packages at the beginning of the season, rather than game by game?

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16515.27 in reply to 16515.25
Date: 2/27/2008 8:15:43 PM
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I don't think season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.


I agree, but what is fanbase? I keep asking, because I do not see any official rules reference to this concept. Absent any official reference, I do not think it is wise to talk about fanbase when we don't know what it is, nor if it even exists.

Winning brings in more fans, losing cuts into that. How is that 'fanbase'?

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