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18253.17 in reply to 18253.16
Date: 3/22/2008 2:09:20 PM
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Perfectly explained. However, I still can't see why in hell that would seem like cheating to you. You prepare your tactics and deploy your players on offense and defense the way you like, and you allocate training minutes for the players you want. Just like in RL you can focus on coaching a given player with great upside, or one who can fit your system if he improves his skills on a concrete area.

What the BB Staff are doing here is trying to establish a balanced training system that allows developing your players abilities and also provides some income to your club. Something simple, easy to understand. Improving the tactical part of the game is a MUST, in my opinion, but not at the expense of complicating or unbalancing training.

I guess we just see it differently. The thing is I just can't understand why you try to imply that defensive pairings have ANYTHING TO DO at all with training. Cause they don't.

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18253.18 in reply to 18253.17
Date: 3/23/2008 11:25:31 AM
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Perfectly explained.


Not really. I still haven't gotten through to you.

The thing is I just can't understand why you try to imply that defensive pairings have ANYTHING TO DO at all with training.


I didn't IMPLY it. I stated it directly.

Oh well. I tried.

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18253.19 in reply to 18253.18
Date: 3/23/2008 3:47:07 PM
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Not really. I still haven't gotten through to you.


I'm afraid it's you who's unable to understand what I'm trying to say. Nevermind, you'll probably find out, with time, that training schemes are probably going to stay more less the same in the future. On the other hand, I'm quite sure (much) more variety and depth will be put into the tactics system rather sooner than later.

I didn't IMPLY it. I stated it directly.

Oh well. I tried.


Well, then allow me to spell it for you - T A C T I C S and T R A I N I N G have nothing to do at all with each other. So your first post is senseless, IMHO. IF defensive pairings are to be implemented into the game, they should NOT affect training at all.

Going on with your example, let's imagine you're training RBD with C/PFs. You want your SG to receive rebounding training, so you deploy him as a PF but use your 'real' PF to defend the best player of your rival in that position. Right, the SG is 'benefiting' somehow from the system. But, at the same time, your 'real' PF is not receiving any training at all. Furthermore, your rival can ALSO do the same thing, or something similar, if he/she wishes. So where the heck is the ADVANTAGE, my friend? I don't see it anywhere.

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18253.20 in reply to 18253.19
Date: 3/23/2008 6:49:41 PM
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I understand you don't see my point about T A C T I C S and T R A I N I N G having an impact on each other once you allow for switching positions on defense.

The ADVANTAGE, my friend comes from you getting rebounding training for your SG but not getting hit with a reduced inside defense because you switched him out on defense.

I realize that you don't get that and never will.


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18253.21 in reply to 18253.20
Date: 3/23/2008 8:00:04 PM
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Once we can have a civil discussion about this, we'll revisit it.

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