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185486.17 in reply to 185486.16
Date: 6/1/2011 6:36:05 AM
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I don't think it is necessarily like that. I have played my actual PG at SG for a few seasons now, due to 1pos.training of my trainees, and he still performed like a PG (week shooting/good play making) while my SG-trainee who played at PG mostly has been an outstanding scorer. Check out my players Hampsas and Zelmenis in season 15 to see what I mean.

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185486.18 in reply to 185486.17
Date: 6/1/2011 7:46:39 AM
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Im gonna go with SF on this one.

He is the guy that can be the most versitile. He could be a good rebounder, good outsider shooting, good driver, good passer, good inside shooter, and I believe as a general rule, whatever offence you play tends to maximise his strengths.
If you play an inside offence, and he has good inside stats, he becomes a third inside player. If you play an inside offence and his strengths are outside, he becomes the third outside shooting player. Or again, if he has awesome passing, he becomes the link man into your PF/C.
Same could be said for outside offences.

You could have guards that are great at shooting, but if you play Low post, you arent neccassarily maximising their strengths. But a SF strengths will be maximised across the majority of offenses.

Plus he is hardest player to guard. PF's and C's you need really good inside D. guards, good outside D... SF you need both, because in your league, against different opponents, you will face both Outside playing and Inside playing SF's.


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185486.19 in reply to 185486.18
Date: 6/1/2011 10:29:40 AM
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If you have an SF who is strong at every skill, than yes.

Many teams play an SG-like player at the SF-spot and play outside offense. In that respect, yes, they maximize his strength. He can surely make a huge difference, but is he then more important than the Guard who is a great shooter as well and/or has to feed him with assists?
The same goes with inside tactics. The big men would have the major impact overall. As I said before, the SF could make a big difference. But to call it the most important position? I think I wouldn't go this far.

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185486.20 in reply to 185486.18
Date: 6/1/2011 12:43:48 PM
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You could have guards that are great at shooting, but if you play Low post, you arent neccassarily maximising their strengths.


Guards are as important (if not more) than inside players on an inside offence.

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185486.21 in reply to 185486.17
Date: 6/1/2011 6:58:12 PM
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lol.. so what is your point then? what you are saying doesnt contradict what i said.

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185486.22 in reply to 185486.20
Date: 6/1/2011 10:27:57 PM
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Guards are as important (if not more) than inside players on an inside offence.


That is very VERY debatable. I personally disagree, but, its up for discussion.

But thats not quite what im saying. Guards MIGHT in fact be more important. But thats not my point.

If you play inside offence, guards are important yes, but if you have awesome guards, then you arent maximising their strengths by playing an inside offence. It would be like having Michael Jordan on your Under15s basketball side, and telling him to pass to the tall lanky guy who hasnt decided if he is right or left handed yet. Yer sure he might get off some awesome passes, too bad the tall lanky guy drops them all, or bricks every one of his shots.

No, if you had MJ, you would telling MJ to shoot the ball, every chance he got. Playing an inside offence, the game engine would allow MJ to shoot some inside shots, but not as many as an outside guard-orientated offence, which I believe is quoted in the game manual. The game engine will try to take advantage of an-MJ player skills no matter what offence you play, but a lot more effectively on selected offensive strategies.

This is why I believe that the SF is the most important player. Because regardless of the offence you play, the game engine will maximise his abilities in the most appropriate manner, more so than any other position. So you basically get more out of him, regardless of the offensive strategy you play.

IMO :)

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185486.23 in reply to 185486.21
Date: 6/2/2011 1:05:53 PM
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I pointed out, that you could say the same for both guard positions. Hence, I wouldn't say that PG is more important.

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185486.24 in reply to 185486.22
Date: 6/2/2011 2:47:08 PM
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I agree with the MJ part.
You have many examples of teams with good inside players and some bad players as guards... does it work? Nope.
Just because the skills of a player are maximised in every offense it doesn't mean that it's the most important position. For example, in an inside offence I would put the guards before the SF, because the SF isn't probably going to be the main inside power and the guards are key in passing the ball inside even though their skills aren't maximized.

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185486.25 in reply to 185486.24
Date: 6/2/2011 9:13:49 PM
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Oh absolutely, this question of who is the most important player is very much dependant upon what kind of offence you play.

Maybe the poster who said the coach is most important player is onto something? ha.


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185486.26 in reply to 185486.25
Date: 6/4/2011 9:45:46 AM
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I like PG the most and it's an acceptable answer from a broad point of view. SF/PF for mismatch potential maybe but I've never owned a good one at those spots.

I will say that teams with expensive/elite centres or big men (even a typical run-of-the-mill high salary in relation to league player) might take them for granted. There's no doubt in my mind that LI is the best offence and you could make a case for centres being the most crucial guys if you have good offensive flow. They're depended on to be efficient primary scorers and solid defenders because let's face it... everyone uses LI. Except me.

I've not yet been smart enough to build a team that can run an effective LI. The highest individual IS I've had on a player is 13. The highest 2 starter combo over an extended period has been 24 IS (13/11). Sad.

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