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Exactly. It's just not practical to rollback all the transfers every time.

Exactly. It's just not practical to rollback all the transfers every time.

Well, it isn't exactly helpful to say: policy is policy.

I understand that you're probably irritated with answering the same or similar questions all the time, but the fact is that this remains an issue that the majority of the playerbase is in the dark on. We don't know if this is a finished bit of policy (the Tough Shit policy) or if you're working on something that might be seen as having a bit more equity.

For example, GMs often adjust transfers if a player is found to be sold at way above market value, taking money away from the person who sold the player. In the event of downtime, could a similar thing not be done in reverse? If a player (like in the case mentioned above) goes for 1M below their EV due to the site being down, couldn't a GM credit that player with maybe even half the difference (so 500k in that case)?

No...

Downtime is completely unpredictable. Every time when a downtime is noticed, the scheduler is taken down and the transfers will be frozen and delayed. Then the transfers will be pushed back and deadlines extended.

However that's only when the downtime is actually noticed and unfortunately for us its close to impossible to have someone notice every downtime within a few minutes to lock all the transfers and other processes. So there will always be cases like the one you are talking about, these cases happen in the time gap untill we are notified and everything is frozen.

We try as much as possible to guarantee an optimal playing experience for our userbase. We want to best for our managers. However if you want to be completely sure that your players will not be sold below market value, then we say to list the player higher. If you list a player for the least amount you are satisfied with, then the downtime cannot harm you much. If you list a player below the amount you are satisfied with, it usually doesn't matter, BUT you take a risk for the few times the site actually breaks.

Downtime has many bad effects, not just affecting the transfers but much more which makes it very complicated to handle. We cannot guarantee anyone a 100% uptime as much as we would like to, it's just impossible.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 8/3/2011 2:20:42 PM

No...

I was a bit unclear at the "no", but your ellipses was incredibly illuminating.

Thank you.

Downtime is completely unpredictable. Every time when a downtime is noticed, the scheduler is taken down and the transfers will be frozen and delayed. Then the transfers will be pushed back and deadlines extended.

However that's only when the downtime is actually noticed and unfortunately for us its close to impossible to have someone notice every downtime within a few minutes to lock all the transfers and other processes. So there will always be cases like the one you are talking about, these cases happen in the time gap untill we are notified and everything is frozen.

We try as much as possible to guarantee an optimal playing experience for our userbase. We want to best for our managers. However if you want to be completely sure that your players will not be sold below market value, then we say to list the player higher. If you list a player for the least amount you are satisfied with, then the downtime cannot harm you much. If you list a player below the amount you are satisfied with, it usually doesn't matter, BUT you take a risk for the few times the site actually breaks.

Downtime has many bad effects, not just affecting the transfers but much more which makes it very complicated to handle. We cannot guarantee anyone a 100% uptime as much as we would like to, it's just impossible.

Thank you. I think all people (at least myself) were looking for was an explanation/some elucidation on the thought process.

Glad I could help!

Glad I could help!

Kisses.

Last edited by loldots at 8/3/2011 3:42:05 PM

Old same argument... The "problem" is not created by the downtimes, it is created by sellers putting players on sale for a low fee under the delusional expectation and assumption that it will drive prices up.

Unnecessary risks taken for unproven smallish gains.
D for situational evaluation and E for decision making ;p

Sellers shouldn't take buyers for clueless cows anyway.
The surprise comes from life being fair from time to time ;)

You know it can happen, still you take the risk of listing a player too low. That's also a way of looking at it.