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I started 0-3 in my first season in D.IV and wound up 9-13, in 6th place and blew out my relegation opponent. Last season I went 13-9, in 4th place. The point is, you can turn your season around. You just need to manage enthusiasm, Gs and with that 800k, buy make some good additions and you should survive your first season in D.IV.

im too lazy to look at all the teams in your league.

You shouldn't have said that, because this person above is going to start attacking you now for being lazy like me :)

im too lazy to look at all the teams in your league but; I dont know what your goals are for this game long term, I dont really have any goals so I play long term..so this is how I would think if I was in your shoes..

1. Looking at the teams in your conference, do you know for sure you can finish 6th or 7th?

if yes then on to #2.

2.Looking at the teams in the other conference, predict who will finish 6th and 7th. If you were to play them in relegation match, with or without home court, with top end enthusiasm and great gameshape for your players, do you know for a fact you would get absolutely face stomped?

Most iv's are bot infested as well, along with a ton of players that dont manage gameshape and enthusiasm, so I dont think you will have a problem staying if you want to.


Long story short, you're gonna have to increase your arena size, while remaining competitive, while retooling your team, sell those old players before they become completely worthless so you at least get some money back, think about getting better trainees long term and shift to single position training next season if you can net a good trainee.

Remember, crappy arena means you cant afford good players, and good trainers to train your young players. Which makes it pointless to buy a good trainee if you cant afford a decent staff trainer for him while also funding your roster. And a good doctor goes a long way, unless you want consistent injuries to players which will ruin their gameshape, causing you to never be a good team.

My goals long term are to make it to the highest level of this game.

Yes, without doubt, I could finish 6th or 7th. I still think I can finish higher, but at this point I also feel like I could end up being a total flop.

You said most IV's are bot infested. Not the one I'm in. There are zero bots, and last time I checked, every team had been online in the last day or two. I wish there were some bots in my league.

And yes, I know I need to make my arena bigger. I have 1,000 bleacher seats that are supposed to finish in 1 day,so I will be at 7000 bleachers or my next home game. And I plan to continue building all season long. I've alread added 2,500 bleachers and some other seasons since promoting to D4.

I currently have a Level 4 trainer, and I think my training program has gone well. Last season I had two trainees get 11+ pops each, and that was two-position training. One of them got 13 pops.

As for injuries, I have to say this because I'm going to jinx myself, but I've played in three seasons now (S17, S18, and S19) and I've had only one injury, and it was for one week. So I've been lucky there.

Thanks very much for your info. It is appreciated.

Hey there, CLegend33. Firstly, Bossofbosses has given you some great advice. The general consensus between myself and fellow Aussies in DIv III, III and ABBL is that if you know you can't win, and you're prepared to train and save, then tank. Of course, you need to tank properly.

1. Get your player salary to the floor
2. Make sure you win enough games to stay out of 8th
3. Save cash, train players and build arena
4. Win relegation series (which would involve you buying the players necessary at the right time prior to relegation series)

Some will read this and say tanking is a poor element of this game but hey...it's your call. I'm currently tanking as I am unlikely to break through into Div II unless I can find some cash. In the interim, I am training two great rookies, one who is an Argentian U21 NT player and the second, who will be an Australian U21 NT player. So, tanking is fine if you do it properly...it's just boring as bat shit!

@ Coach D, get out of this thread! Go harrass someone who deserves to be harrassed. As I tell my students, "if your asking questions then your thinking. If your thinking I can teach you!" Get it? Questions = GOOD! Lots of questions = GOOD!

Yeah, youre just jumping the gun on giving up :) Last season I was 5-7 at one point. I did not add to my roster and voila a 9 game win streak later I finish the season 14-8 and in 1st place. Only to be beaten in the first round, but thats another story for another day :)

I'd for sure stay with your team for the next couple weeks at least to see if you can turn it around. You only lost the first game by ten, and it looks like it was mainly a 4th quarter surge. The second team you played called your Look Inside with a 2-3 zone and also has a handful of really great players on his team. The third team has a very well balanced team with no weak points, and I think played with more enthusiasm than you did, hence the big point spread.
I think a couple other folks have pointed these things out already, but figured I'd toss in my vote for continuing to go for it and not tank. You'll probably do better the next time you play those teams. In the meantime hopefully your next several games will go your way and you can start getting some W's.

With 8000k you can turn your team into a contender like right now. Spending that money would not only make you competitive, but close to promotion.

I'd say try to stick it out. It's certainly too early to pack it in if you've been remotely competitive.

I started one season 0-5 but still ended up with the best record in the conference. Often you can be just missing that one critical piece to turn those 5 point losses into 5 point wins.

You have been given some excellent strategic advice about making and sticking to long term plans and avoiding mediocrity.

Off this topic but related to another post of your about Harlen(?) where you said it was peaceful and low crime because everyone has guns.

I stayed in a youth hostel in China once and was sharing a room with two USA students. I said I did not konw a single person who owned a gun, they said they didn't know a single person who didn't have a gun. I said I have never known of anyone ever, friend, relative, friend of an uncles friend's neighbour that had been shot. They said they knew many close friends and relatives that had been, some sadly fatally. You said you don't need to lock your doors. My old Ford Falcon had a broken lock so I didn't lock it for three years until the police finally took it off the road for good. My old house was never locked. Often the front door was completly open with no-one home (I admit I didn't like that because it was often full of flies). When I ride my bike to the local shops I just lean it against the wall. No guns, no problems.

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