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258700.17 in reply to 258700.15
Date: 5/13/2014 5:37:25 PM
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This my opinion not fact.

Some managers like to boost certain skills to run a certain tactics, which also creates a lot selling price with this certain player. When the player is unknown in how to be used among the peers of bb just among a few that will know.

Its not a flaw or error per say. It a inside things among a few that know what they are looking at.. Is it bad player, yes at same time. He was made for a certain tactic in mind for a certain team. So he not really a bad unless you know what your looking at.

To prevent this.?? You really cant. Its more than one way to build a player and not all teams are built to play the same tactic.

Its a lot players on the market that I see . That I don't know what they are made for in tactics, these types of player bring a certain team balance. Me personally I fire these kinds of players that I create in such a fashion. Some things are just best left unknown.

Yes some are just balloon players in skills for $$ and bad for your team. But if you know how to use the players its a good thing. Me personally I would not buy him. Because im not 100% sure how he is used. Could have been a defensive player. Ehh

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 5/13/2014 5:40:32 PM

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258700.19 in reply to 258700.6
Date: 5/14/2014 1:37:08 PM
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They are both important. Imagine a player with phenomenal JS but average JR (unfortunately those badly trained players exist). He will demand the ball to shoot every possesion but he will be pretty inefective from long range.



welcome to the world of dwayne wade and lebron james. Ok lebron can knock down some threes, but he is not exactly a prominent 3pt shooter

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258700.20 in reply to 258700.6
Date: 5/16/2014 9:08:40 AM
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They are both important. Imagine a player with phenomenal JS but average JR (unfortunately those badly trained players exist). He will demand the ball to shoot every possesion but he will be pretty inefective from long range. :)


Not in this game. JS is considerably more important than JR here. JR is easily the least important skill for big men and it's the least important guard skill for perimeter players IMO. Especially in a game that still favors those that play inside tactics that won't shoot many 3 pointers.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 5/16/2014 9:11:26 AM

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258700.21 in reply to 258700.19
Date: 5/18/2014 6:39:30 AM
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orld of dwayne wade and lebron james. Ok lebron can knock down some threes, but he is not exactly a prominent 3pt shooter


In Lebrons case, it is JS which is ~15. His JR is Legendary for sure. :) His Jump Shot is not consistant, but it is not getting worse with distance. And his driving is around Legendary+++ or so :D
Wade, of course, has lower JR :)

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258700.22 in reply to 258700.21
Date: 5/18/2014 7:10:44 AM
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I'm not sure if you intended it as a joke:)

However, lebron definitely hasn't got legendary JR. In his first 10 seasons he has 1136/3332 3PM, and he shot a decent 34.09%
Reggie Miller, for instance, has shot 1596/3950 at 40.4% in his first 10 seasons
Ray Allen has shot 2121/5372 at 39.48%
These are legendary

Wade attempts under one 3 pt shot per game, I hope you don't believe he is anything close to a 3pt shooter:D However, I'm not saying lebron doesn't shoot threes with a good percentage, but he is far from legendary

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258700.23 in reply to 258700.22
Date: 5/18/2014 10:09:08 AM
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Look more games, not stats :)

James does not make 40% 3pts because of bad JS, not because of bad JR. His Jump Range is one of the best of all time. He is shooting with same technique from 20 feet as well as from 35 feet distance. And he is actually making these very long 3pointers with incredible high % (for such a distance).

Of course, Reggie, RayRay, Korver are different category. They have not only Legendary JR, but also Legendary JS :)

And we both agree on Wade. His Jump Range is poor :)


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258700.24 in reply to 258700.23
Date: 5/18/2014 5:10:48 PM
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I did look at the games:)

Again, I am not saying he is bad in the 3 pt shot department, he is decent, but most of his points come from elsewhere, so I think it's improper to say he has 20 or 20+ JR, or that he is one of the best of all time. His mechanics are the same also because of his physical strength, he really does not need to alter his shot most of the times, at least not because of the range that he shoots from.

Anyhoo, going back to original subject, I think it may happen that players are awful from 3pt territory and decent from mid range. Just as it may happen that players are very good at range shooting and not that good at point blank lay-ups. All the motions require techniques and a lot of practice, especially for professional level.

In BB, it's debatable what can happen but if a player reaches 10 JR, it;s almost impossible to have atrocious JS

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258700.25 in reply to 258700.20
Date: 5/19/2014 8:10:59 PM
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I agree with this 100%. I would also agree with game shape needs to go. Stamina is good enough to replace it.

Im really am sick of the Jr thing. It just very misleading, the thing that make me gringe the most is, it jack up the price on player.

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