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275528.17 in reply to 275528.16
Date: 12/4/2015 2:19:04 AM
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At least from everything i've come across or read, this factor is assumed to be primarily a negative factor.


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Interesting read. Thanks for the link.

I'm still curious to see if anyone has really tried to turn this into an advantage and bolster it by training certain skills. Whether it would work or not is another question.

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Date: 12/10/2015 5:25:55 AM
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Interesting read. Thanks for the link.

I'm still curious to see if anyone has really tried to turn this into an advantage and bolster it by training certain skills. Whether it would work or not is another question.


Problem with those players is, that you won't get the necessary minutes to train the core skills. Plus it is very debateable if they draw more fouls than they commit - or if there is any positive effect at all.

I had a trainee that probably had the maximum in aggressiveness (I quit the game, out of sheer frustration, because of this guy), I had no chance to get him a full 48 minutes in one game and thus was useless in any long term perspective for my team.

One guy could singlehandedly need three games a week to get to 48 minutes on one position, basically using 2 training slots instead of one. You would waste valuable training for a player you know will produce for very limited minutes. And you have to consider that players injured by that guy (if those physical players injure more often is still unclear!), would miss the following games, thus you'd help your opponents more than yourself.

All in all, those "physical" guys are pure trash, a waste of database and server capacity and should be avoided at all cost.

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Date: 12/16/2015 12:45:40 AM
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All in all, those "physical" guys are pure trash, a waste of database and server capacity and should be avoided at all cost.


Yea, I suppose my fear is that you're right. But I just find it hard believe that the BBs would create a completely negative trait, or at least one where it far outweighs the positives, and there'd be no value to them at all. And while I do agree that getting those training minutes might be a bit more challenging, it is possible but typically means carrying only 2 primary trainees max. Maybe i'll try to find and experiment with such players on my Utopia squad...

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Date: 12/16/2015 1:25:55 AM
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I do not feel the physical guys are pure trash. And, i've noticed there are 2 different types of physical guys. ones that draw physicality, and ones that cause physicality.

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Date: 12/26/2015 1:41:05 AM
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I was curious about this, and how the aggression trait actually manifests itself in games, so I did a very crude analysis just now to see whether there was any correlation between the number of foul shots taken by a player per 48 minutes played vs. the number of fouls committed by that same player per 48 minutes played.

See chart:

http://imgur.com/EXqEJhf

For the sample size, I loaded all the data from season 32 of my league -- every player who had played at least 15 mpg in at least 10 games. It ended up being about 130 players across 88,000 minutes. It's a really small sample size in the scheme of things. I wish I could've made it more comprehensive by unfortunately I just don't have the time atm.

Since I'm not a stat head, I honestly have no idea how significant that slope is.

Last edited by PeachesTheApache at 12/26/2015 1:45:35 AM