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The current salary formula is known, so why would it hurt to release the small changes? Would help the guys who are raging now to calm down and adapt their plans.

It could also be descriptive, something like (just tossing random numbers around):
guards: -3% PA cost, -3% JR cost, -1% RB cost to be replaced by increased cost in IS and ID
forwards: -3% JR cost, +6% IS cost

I'm sure nobody and I mean nobody can seriously claim that $0 cost of IS on guards is sensible design and that 140TSP SF cost 40% less than 125 TSP PGs or Cs. In the real world is like LeBron James or Kevin Durant earning 40% less than Curry, Westbrook or Cousins. It makes no sense.

People like Sensiman and Alexandar should perhaps argue that the salary of multiskilled players shouldn't be higher than monoskilled so that building well rounded players still make sense, but claiming that the current opposite situation is fair, so that a 140 TSP SF having a 30%-40% lower salary than a 125 TSP C or PG is fair, makes no sense to me. Hakkinen got close to 160 TSP and he was far from being the most expensive player on the Finnish NT.

Marin has already clarified that there are not going to be massive changes, so it's hard to fathom how multiskilled players will become more expensive (in salary) than monoskilled ones. However making IS cost something, anything, for guards is kind of a necessary fix and so is making sure that SF don't have the huge salary advantage they currently have.

I'd like to add one thing although it might go a bit too far in terms of complexity. I think the salary increases are non-linear. So going from 6>7 in one skill does not cause the same increase in salary than 16>17. If the problem is that 'training' multiskilled players might become more expensive, just make sure that the salary increases become heavier than they are now after a certain level. This way you don't punish the managers that do most of the training work, but people enjoying the final product or a good intermediate product (after half of the training has already been done) will pay a salary more in line with the real value of the player.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2016 11:53:50 AM

The current salary formula is known, so why would it hurt to release the small changes? Would help the guys who are raging now to calm down and adapt their plans.

Well I'm not raging really, I usually voice my displeasure briefly, but after it's all said and done, I accept things and move on. You and some others are the ones who are complaining too often.

In this case, these changes diminish rewards for dedicated training. So it's turnoff for hardcore fans of the game, appeal to casual ones.

You and some others are the ones who are complaining too often.

Usually you will see that the complaints of me and some others, will lead to some changes. If you know how popular the opinions of some others and me are, you might understand that this possibly does not happen due to personal affection. Without complaint nothing would change, so its up to a few to make some noise, as the majority stays silent anyways.

I think the changes in salary are necessary. However in this case I am arguing once again, that this is like tweak number 276, the changes before did not change much and the announcement and handling are poor as usual. At the end of the day it's still only a tweak and the big changes necessary are still missing.

Just fix the 2-3 zone, make it so that it kill LI and LP hard, the game will be balanced as never.

A storm in a water glass.

Never heard that one before, but its perfect. This is the same overreaction whenever there's a change.