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Remove HCA for NT continental championships

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323269.17 in reply to 323269.12
Date: 3/22/2024 11:39:37 AM
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After watching several seasons of the NT and U21 Consolation Tournaments and checking the world rankings of countries that do not qualify to host HCA at the beginning of each season, I have changed my mind.

I think teams that are not strong enough to compete for the top four spots and medals in the Consolation Tournament should not be disqualified from hosting HCA, otherwise it will be very boring and demotivating.

This is more important than avoiding strong countries easily winning trophies through the HCA or qualifying for the Second Chance Qualifiers with the HCA.

African teams are a clear example.
The following are the countries in Asia whose NT did not qualify to host HCA in S63, along with their world rankings at the beginning of each season. https://i.imgur.com/7Kg4Tox.png
It can be seen that countries like Hanguk and Malaysia are far from the top 16 in the world rankings, which confirms that it is unreasonable for them to be disqualified from hosting HCA.

I have considered adding a condition related to world rankings, but this may lead to some teams intentionally performing poorly to lower their world rankings.
The Second Chance Qualifiers may also face the same issue.

Therefore, I suggest 1+2+3+4.
1. Using kozlik4's solution (323269.12).
Making the semifinal, final, and the decisive matches of the Second Chance Qualifiers neutral.
2. Countries that have won a trophy in the past 3 or 5 seasons at the World Championships should not be able to host HCA.
3. Adding a trophy for the consolation tournament. (323269.15)
If the top 4 teams enter the consolation tournament, it gives them a goal to pursue.
4. Tournament format.
The Plan2 in (322429.43) or (322429.44) (I prefer latter.) + the 3rd part in (322429.43) (for consistency).

However, I feel a bit sorry for teams currently benefiting, such as Nippon.

Therefore, I suggest giving priority to teams that have not hosted HCA for a longer period in the same round, or when no team enters the knockout phase and the highest standing is the same, before following the original comparison order.

Last edited by little Guest at 3/24/2024 9:38:32 AM

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323269.18 in reply to 323269.17
Date: 3/24/2024 11:33:00 AM
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If further restrictions are needed, then below is my solution, which is not as restrictive as before.
The goal is to minimize the number of teams that may not have enough strength to reach the top four in the Consolation Tournament.

1. HCA Restrictions.
Europe: (a + b + c) or (a + b + c + d)
Americas and Asia: (a + b) or (a + b + c)
Africa: a

a: have won a trophy (1-4) in the past 3 seasons in the World Championships.
b: have won a champion or finalist in the past 4 seasons in the Continental tournament.
c: have won a trophy (1-4) in the past 4 seasons and have also won 2 trophies (1-4) in the past 8 seasons in the Continental tournament.
d: have finished in the top 8 (trophy + Second Chance Qualifier) twice in the past 6 seasons in the Continental tournament.

Examples:

Asia NT https://imgur.com/GXg1uom
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S63 (current):
China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, Philippines, Hanguk, Malaysia
(a + b): Without Australia, Philippines, Hanguk, Malaysia
(a + b + c): Without Philippines, Hanguk, Malaysia

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S65 (current):
China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, Indonesia, Hanguk, Malaysia
(a + b): Without Australia, Indonesia, Hanguk, Malaysia
(a + b + c): Without Indonesia, Hanguk, Malaysia

Americas NT https://imgur.com/VUDFUHL
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S63 (current):
United States, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Canada, México, Brasil
(a + b): Without Argentina, México, Brasil
(a + b + c): Without Brasil

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S65 (current):
United States, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Canada, México, Venezuela
(a + b): Without Argentina, Canada, México, Venezuela
(a + b + c): Without Argentina, Canada, Venezuela

Europe NT https://imgur.com/9N7d9w8
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S63 (current):
Polska, Italia, España, France, Srbija, Israel, Suomi, Belgium, Hellas, Deutschland
(a + b + c): Without Suomi, Belgium
(a + b + c + d): Add Lietuva

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S65 (current):
Polska, Italia, España, France, Lietuva, Srbija, Israel, Hellas, Deutschland
(a + b + c): Without Hellas, Deutschland
(a + b + c + d): Add Belgium and without Hellas, Deutschland

Asia U21 https://imgur.com/YbgVQQ5
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S62 (current):
Australia, Hong Kong, Philippines, China, Taiwan, Prathet Thai
(a + b): Without China, Taiwan, Prathet Thai
(a + b + c): Without Prathet Thai

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S64 (current):
Australia, Hong Kong, Philippines, China, Indonesia, Taiwan, Malaysia, Prathet Thai
(a + b): Without China, Indonesia, Taiwan, Malaysia, Prathet Thai
(a + b + c): Without China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Prathet Thai

Americas U21 https://imgur.com/9WPY84B
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S62 (current):
United States, Argentina, Brasil, Chile, Peru, Canada
(a + b): Without Brasil, Peru, Canada
(a + b + c): Without Peru, Canada

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S64 (current):
United States, Argentina, Brasil, Chile, Peru, Canada, Panama
(a + b): Without Brasil, Chile, Peru, Panama
(a + b + c): Without Peru, Panama

Europe U21 https://imgur.com/SVDV6GV
Teams ineligible to host HCA in S62 (current):
España, Italia, France, Israel, Srbija, Deutschland, Polska, Lietuva, Magyarország
(a + b + c): Without Srbija, Deutschland
(a + b + c + d): Add Hellas, Suomi

Teams ineligible to host HCA in S64 (current):
España, Italia, France, Israel, Srbija, Deutschland, Bosna i Hercegovina, Belgium, Polska, Lietuva, Magyarország
(a + b + c): Without Srbija, Deutschland, Lietuva, Magyarország
(a + b + c + d): Add Hellas and without Lietuva, Magyarország

2. Using kozlik4's solution.
3. Adding a trophy for the consolation tournament.
4. Tournament format.
5. (Option) The comparison order for determining the host country at the end of (323269.17).

Last edited by little Guest at 3/24/2024 10:28:00 PM