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39933.17 in reply to 39933.15
Date: 7/24/2008 10:45:02 AM
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I 'm sorry that you took it personally. I meant no dig at you whatsoever.

You are correct regarding my valuation paradigm.

I think that a price which only one third of one percent of the total population of prospective buyers can afford is the definition of exorbitant. Like I said before, ARod got 123 million.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 7/24/2008 10:52:37 AM
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It's not exorbitant if it's a good investment.

At the price the Rangers once paid for A-Rod, it probably wasn't a good investment, since they weren't in a state where what they paid for him would increase their income enough via tickets, TV, and especially playoff appearances.

For the Yankees, it's a different story. They're looking at different multipliers for the value of a win. The difference between having A-Rod at third base versus some scrub might be the difference between making the playoffs and not.

I think the same thing is in play here. An NBBA playoff team derives much more value from an elite player than 99.9% of the rest of BB. Possibly enough value that the transfer price was a good investment.

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Date: 7/24/2008 11:11:06 AM
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I would argue that the Yankees got ARod not to get to the playoffs, but to win World Serieseses (which they have yet to do with him at the hot corner thank god), and that exorbitant has less to do with individual valuation and more to do with collective valuation, but that is semantics more than anything, no?

The crux is that I am changing my stance on the ridiculosity of the 10 million dollar man and his brethren who undoubtedly are but a short way down the road.
You both make good points and I appreciate your insights. Also, I have two guards who are about four weeks away from being in the same skill range as Sharman's guy, soooo...

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 7/24/2008 11:19:41 AM
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Some interesting reading for everyone while they cool down (not that this is getting too heated, really): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winner%27s_curse



Thats a great read!

Long live the Winners Curse!!!


Somdetsfinest - 4 weeks is a long time in BB...... everyone wants the shiniest, newest most expensive toy..... (not referring to my guy as this as I know there are others better!) Point is though no-one has put them up for sale yet..

The next race worth winning is the 18yo MVP... how many managers have single position trained a decent draft pick this season...

First 2-3 out in the open will claim the cash... the next waive of them will still sell handsomely but for less.....

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Date: 7/24/2008 12:21:33 PM
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BBB was bad for most of the BB world - it added millions of dollars targeted specifically to the already successful teams. The KDBs of the world do not need a couple extra million. BBB should have just been for prestige and would have served the same purpose. We play our NT players with the risk of injury and we do not get a cut of the gate to compensate for the risk.


I had 4 B3 games, and made maybe 750k extra from revenue in those games. Then, back out maybe 300k-400k for lower attendance after having to take a dive in a league game, on top of the loss I took getting knocked out of the B3.

Yeah, 350-450k. Maybe I could use that money to get one limb of a good player.

Last edited by brian at 7/24/2008 12:22:08 PM

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Date: 7/24/2008 2:42:28 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are all missing the point of the A-Rod acquisition. Wasn't it mostly to leverage their marketing power and marketing/advertising revenues? Bringing someone like A-Rod to New York doubles the media attention the team gets, which is similar to what they may get if they win a world series (approximate guesses of course).


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Date: 7/24/2008 2:43:57 PM
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I started a reply like this earlier (and in fact BB-mailed it to somdetsfinest earlier)... but I stopped because we're getting way off-topic. Feel free to take baseball over to Non-BB.

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Date: 7/24/2008 2:45:35 PM
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That is more profit then a lot of teams make in one season.

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Date: 7/24/2008 3:03:56 PM
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That is more profit then a lot of teams make in one season.

If a team is making less than 750k profit per season, their problem is not Buzzerbeater, it's inefficient management.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 7/24/2008 4:22:48 PM
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Profit as in after expenses? I'm in D.III now and am probably an above average team but using my finances as a guide, I would expect the following:

$150,000 Arena and TV Revenue per week
$15,000 in Merch Revenue per week
$70,000 in Player Salary
$50,000 in Staff Salary
$20,000 in Scouting
$25,000 profit per week
$350,000 profit per season

A team can make more each season based on adjustments (less player salary, no scouting, etc.) but the bulk is going to have to come from player sales if you want to make up to $750K and assuming you want to purchase a player or two, you have to train very efficiently to realize the high purchase prices.

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39933.27 in reply to 39933.23
Date: 7/24/2008 4:24:38 PM
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I thought about that as well, but when it comes down to it I think it is relevent. For a lot of teams the ultimate goal of buying a player is not a championship it is to boost revenue (spend money to make money) which is another justification of paying the high purchase price if you know you are going to sell again for more or draw attention to your players or bring in more fans, etc.

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