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Bit of the Gordon Browns about the changes!!

I'm sure they have been thought through for the greater good of the community but the last thing I want to read is people now calculating whether or not they stay in the same league or even consider getting relegated...

The saving grace has to be more consistent attendences and higher caps for season ticket holders.. this is the only way to justify the changes to Div 1 teams.

The only major disappointment for me is the volatility in transfer prices this will cause. The transfer compare will be seriously mis-leading for the next few weeks (maybe wise just to turn it off for a while) and I guess teams that are celebrating that the big boys wont be making much money should sit back and calculate how much less profit they are now likely to receive from their training regime.

I think overall it is going to be much more beneficial for big teams as to build a stadium now is going to be so much more difficult.....we will still end up with more money - just less more money than before....

Do we know anything about the new staff system? Obviously almost anything would be an upgrade but I hope it doesn't overpower the actual game play.

As a lower tier division member, I'm not opposed to the changes. It is going to suck and hurt a few teams as mentioned in the next month or so when people try to recoup the high prices they paid for players recently, but the changes are going to affect everyone, not equally admittedly, but that is the age old debate over flat tax versus relative tax.

My biggest questions are more minor. First, aren't most national teams comprised of young players already? Isn't it a bit premature to have the junior teams? Maybe not next season but it seems like age won't be the biggest factor in causing you to be on the junior team.

Second, why even bother giving a TV revenue? Why not forget the $35K? Again, if it is going to happen to every team just leave it out. The beauty of the TV Revenue was the variance it produced. Some teams would be scrapping just to get by and everyone had money at different times. In a way it spread the wealth over the season and let you plan a little more. Now it is just blah!

Thoughts?

2 weeks to adjust??

is that the 2 weeks that new players are ineligible to play for you during the playoffs?

Im on $400k a game (and thats after a 22-0 - i hate to think what it goes down to after a loss!)

So thats $400k - $160k = $240k +TV = $275k
PR - Staff (thank goodness I still have Max Paine!) - Scouting = Break Even.
Salaries $200k pre update....

Then Cup revenue (was 32.5k against a bot - awaiting for BB3 announcement)

I hope I can still squeeze out $100k a week til the allstar week then break even til the playoffs then a bit more in the last couple of weeks.


Last edited by Superfly Guy at 7/28/2008 11:20:06 PM

we had a salary cap even before. it's just that we were far enough from it to feel its stinky breath.

i think if there was it wasnt enforce or made you feel any sting. as i know as long you have the money to sustain that team and so on you can keep doing it.
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for instead of making the income less especially for top divisions teams, since i understand being in the top league is tough.

why not make a salary cap same as the nba, before the start of the new season where the relegated left and the new comers come in. by matching the expenses of players we could arrive at a mean or average how would that division fair and by that come up with a salary cap.

so if lets say the average team of a division should be around 150k salaries combine all in all then who goes over the difference will be in sort of a penalty that will be charge to them after the season and give to those relegated as compensation. ( did you know that the nba does give compensation to those teams that sucks as to help with their operation , yes that is where some of that salary cap penalty goes. now you understand why the clippers like loosing then when they havent got brand, maggete and etc )

now it could be a bit harsh if at start a season getting the average, another way is basing it on the average of last season salaries like a mean of the whole division or another way is give the present season till probably a time and get the average of the whole team ( this is hard ).

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closing the gap of the have and have not is a issue, also its going to get tougher with this how to get ahead from other teams.

If I read correctly you are saying over time as the economy stabilises the 40% figure will be reduced? So we can still plan ahead (even lose money temporarily if we want to keep increasing salaries in the knowledge our gate receipts will likely creep up in order for us to afford these longer term?

One thing that didnt get the mention it deserves is Junior NTs!! I'm definitely going to be applying for a U20/21 job....

at least , i hope now the draft level will advance.. because the changes really not looks good ..
and i think the changes really hurts the big teams.. no advantage from the tv income.. 40% from gates it's insane !! , and what with us..? what about a extra bonus also for the first Divisions ..? we don't have option to promotion somewhere..

i don't know how much large the bonus for promotion .. but now first league teams will attempt to Demotion for come back fast with a large bonus ..

part of the changes really requested .. but part of the changes really unnecessary in my opinion ..

Last edited by Warrior at 7/28/2008 11:33:16 PM

I looked at my math too, and I'm looking at about 25-35k profit per week. In other words I will be running a negative if you don't count tv revenue.

While in the end I may end up better off than a div 2 team, though I really am not sure how, that is not my primary concern.

With these changes I cannot even conceive of any way to make up ground on my competition within the division other than to throw games and pick up a good draft pick or something. How can I hope to improve my team making while not even turning a profit? The changes may function as a normalizing factor for top teams, but for middling div 1 teams it basically ensures the status quo.

One other thing...what about guys who are sitting on huge nest eggs of cash right now? Some people may have just spent money on players unaware of the changes, and now there will be an enormous advantage to guys who just happened to have not spent their money, since they will be the only ones who have any next season.

thanks - just one last point from me!

you mention D1 teams in mature countries (or something to that effect) what about the countries with less established userbases.

Japan is teetering on the edge with on average 11-14 managers in recent months (and now in danger of dropping below 10 soon) Everytime a new manager is placed in our top Division it takes a long time for them to establish a fan base... will attendences of Div 1 sides who quite often face bots/new managers be effected as dramatically as they are today? This is the most unpredictable in my opinion and ticket prices are less relevant for when these teams visit.

Over the course of a season that is a big variance to have to contend with.. and on the subject of users.. the main number seems to have remained fairly stable around 26,000 for a while now.. are there plans to advertise and encourage a new waive of managers and have you a new target userbase for a season from now?