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From: oriolekid

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191253.171 in reply to 191253.100
Date: 7/27/2011 1:08:16 AM
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Forget you.

I just state my opinion that I, and probably others feel, and you go off and make personal attacks on a member who has no interest in actually running for the senior NT and I truly did respect you as a manager. You're a better manager than me. Fine you can take pride in that but leave me out of your condescending remarks that you happened to make about your hopes and dreams in an attempt that will win over the members who hope that their next NT coach prefers "the classroom".


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191253.172 in reply to 191253.163
Date: 7/27/2011 1:17:37 AM
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@boss of bosses...hilarious pic.

@GM-Jason & @nammsor - IMO you two are the top candidates so far. In an attempt to separate you two, I have three questions :

1) If Lundy had been walking on the street for days, 3 weeks late for a shower, and STILL not in 9gs, do you offer to pick him up?

2) How far in advance do you think its necessary to game plan when considering call ups and enthusiasm? With a limited roster before it hurts overall enthusiasm, what might your strategy be?

3) What use would you get out of the offsite? Regardless of what you use for it now, what would your plans for the future be?

From: Jason

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191253.173 in reply to 191253.171
Date: 7/27/2011 1:24:34 AM
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Forget you.

I just state my opinion that I, and probably others feel, and you go off and make personal attacks on a member who has no interest in actually running for the senior NT and I truly did respect you as a manager. You're a better manager than me. Fine you can take pride in that but leave me out of your condescending remarks that you happened to make about your hopes and dreams in an attempt that will win over the members who hope that their next NT coach prefers "the classroom".


I think you are missing the point of a debate :-) I am sorry I hurt your feelings...But i am not sure what you think I should have said, or how I should have reacted to that. The point of this thread to air opinions and beliefs, and when people say things critical or questioning a candidate the candidate needs to address it and prove otherwise.

Your post indicated that I have missed out on "immense teaching". I was showing you that my teams resume' would say otherwise. Additionally, I was pointing out that we talk to the same people, just in different places.

I really am sorry I hurt your feelings....But you have to understand, when you criticize someone for being "ripe" and not ready, it kind of puts their guard up a bit. :-)

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191253.174 in reply to 191253.172
Date: 7/27/2011 1:41:38 AM
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@boss of bosses...hilarious pic.

@GM-Jason & @nammsor - IMO you two are the top candidates so far. In an attempt to separate you two, I have three questions :

1) If Lundy had been walking on the street for days, 3 weeks late for a shower, and STILL not in 9gs, do you offer to pick him up?

2) How far in advance do you think its necessary to game plan when considering call ups and enthusiasm? With a limited roster before it hurts overall enthusiasm, what might your strategy be?

3) What use would you get out of the offsite? Regardless of what you use for it now, what would your plans for the future be?


1. Depends if I am driving my truck, or my nice car :-)

2. All of my friends make fun of me because I obsess over every detail about my team. I plan, strategize, cover every angle, use every tool avaiable to me. I look at my opponent in such detail i start worrying about their strengths, and my friends hear my worrying, and I guess I sound like I think i am going to lsoe, then I win by 40 and they laugh at me for stressing out at all. I am always planning in advance. And I adjust along the way as well. I am constantly considering all angles, its just how i do things.

3. The offsite has become the place for the USA NT's. Additionally, its secure, so our community can openly talking about things there and strategize without the same concern we would on forums here on the site. Its a great way to communicate, strategize, keeping running conversations on various topics like scouting reports, training updates, etc. Its a great place to brainstorm and come up with new ideas. I am not really telling you anything you don't know; anyone whose been to the site knows its many uses and applications. I would use it exactly how its being used now...Its a great platform for the coach to reach out to, and work with the coaches who are helping and volunteering for the various needs of the NT. I certainly wouldnt change it, or use it anyless than how its being used now. Of course any new ideas I come up with would be discussed on the offsite forum as well.

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191253.176 in reply to 191253.118
Date: 7/27/2011 3:42:45 AM
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I want to thank you for being the bigger man in these debates as your points and qualifications have been criticized more than anyone, and you have yet to be rude or aggressive/defensive to anyone. You have have answered nearly every question with the professionalism I'd expect from anyone that truly wanted the position.

Having said that the odds seem stacked against you, and I want to encourage you to get involved in the NT or U21 because we could definitely use someone with your ideas and enthusiasm.

Good Luck

We have a lot of great outside shooters. Unfortunately, we play all our games indoors.
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191253.177 in reply to 191253.159
Date: 7/27/2011 6:37:23 AM
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I hope buckeye wins so that we have someone new to make fun of besides edju but im voting for Jason

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From: Coolbobj

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191253.178 in reply to 191253.175
Date: 7/27/2011 6:58:41 AM
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Namssor has experience at being a NT manager so it won't be new to him. He was successful at NZ, surely he deserves a chance at USA NT. Jason can wait for now.

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191253.179 in reply to 191253.165
Date: 7/27/2011 8:02:23 AM
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Here's my question for the candidates....

We now have an active offsite forum with many options being weighed prior to every game. Ultimately, the decision will come down to the winner of this election. If the entire community is going against your tactical choice(roster, sub patter,tactics all included), will you stick to your guns and push forward anyway?


The NT Management position is very social as well. You will be interacting with the community and trying to grow the community, but you will also be communicating with other NT Coaches. What are your thoughts on mTIEs during the tournaments? Would you be willing to break an agreement and what circumstances would make you consider it? Basically, is winning more important than your reputation?


If I am the NT coach I would listen to everyone's opion, but at the end of the day I am the coach and I am not going to let our team lose to try to keep some people happy for me using their tactics.

I like mTIEs. The only thing is there will be some easy games when we go against bad opponents and you can tie then. No I would not break an agreement if I was not going to do TIE then I would tell them 10 minutes before the game started. :)

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191253.180 in reply to 191253.172
Date: 7/27/2011 8:31:45 AM
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1) If Lundy had been walking on the street for days, 3 weeks late for a shower, and STILL not in 9gs, do you offer to pick him up?

2) How far in advance do you think its necessary to game plan when considering call ups and enthusiasm? With a limited roster before it hurts overall enthusiasm, what might your strategy be?

3) What use would you get out of the offsite? Regardless of what you use for it now, what would your plans for the future be?


1. No, I drive past and act like I never saw him.

2. 1 week ahead. For me it would start with player tendencys. First I would look on the NT games to learn if a player was a scorer,rebounder,etc. Then I would go to their league games. I would be looking closely to when the players team won big or lost big. I could see what teams did to stop this player or see what teams did not do. This way I could get the most educated guess on what the players skills were and were I need to attack him at. Next I would study own tactics. I could see my tendencies and think what someone would play against me. This would be helpful as it would show me if I am playing different to the team or if I am set on one tactic and so I could get a guess, but not a educated guess of what they were going to play against me. Next I would look at their tactics, again seeing if they adjusted to the opponent or stuck with one for most or all of the games. As I said earlier I would look at their wins and losses seeing what the losing team did not do against my opponent and what the winning team did differently. I would try to get every ounce of information out the tools that the game has provided me with.

3. I would get some help people would give me suggestions on the tactics and get scouting help on new players. I would especially look at the U 21 team as it has some potential NT players. I see it staying at that, because you cannot advertise for people to join the offsite forum and support our teams if they already joined. Hopefully by the end of this next 2 season term, whoever wins this has increased the amount of people on and more discussion.

Last edited by Buckeyefan01 at 7/27/2011 8:34:17 AM

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191253.181 in reply to 191253.180
Date: 7/27/2011 9:13:35 AM
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1. I tell him to start running instead of walking.
2. 3-4 days ahead of game so i have plenty of time to make sure my lineup is the best possible and if i want to change it i can.
3. I would get peoples opinion of the game and listen to what they have to say and put reports of the team on there and advertise the NT on offsite as well as other places.

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