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318174.171 in reply to 318174.168
Date: 4/30/2023 10:03:16 PM
Wavy Gates
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If you think the ones against this change are wrong then you should prove it and not simply say it as if you hold the truth. Or you could find a way to improve the proposed change by taking into account some of their arguments/fears, or maybe implement a test phase in a smaller market (for example the staff) to see what the real consequences of such a change are.

But summarizing the opponents as if they were people against any change and whose arguments are false or extremely unlikely does not help the debate. Even more coming from the CM that you are.


some of the managers that were against this wanted to see a sample first, not a full over haul new system for bids. But that idea was also shot down too. Both sides shot down one another’s counter point. Same result in the discord too

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318174.176 in reply to 318174.173
Date: 5/4/2023 4:51:09 AM
Redblack Gypaetus
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I appreciate the effort to summarize all the changes that have been made, but to me this list proves precisely CM-Alonso point

Those are very small changes which doesn´t change at all anything in a structural way. And I want to point out that I don´t want to discredit the work made by Buzzerbeater bosses. That´s not my intention. But if you think that this list are changes then we are in a very differente position regarding of the meaning of changing something

On the other hand, about the controversial topic about if a 53% against 47% is a great majority or not, it could be argue both sides. In this world most of the deccisions are made with much worse differences than 53 against 47. In fact, democracy is not de form of goverment where everybody is equal, but the type of goverment where rule is decided by majority, and by definition usually majority is being considered 50% plus 1 more. Do you think that in some occasións that´s is not enough? All right, then define when is not enough and perhaps we could even agree on that

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318174.177 in reply to 318174.176
Date: 5/4/2023 5:51:52 AM
Los de la Escalera
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Please, we musn't loose de human factor on the bid system. The most exiting thing is to know that other person is biding and the figth between. How many bids ends with a BBmail wiht something like "Well, the player is yours, enjoy it" and you don't even know if its genuine or sarcastic.

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318174.178 in reply to 318174.176
Date: 5/4/2023 6:46:05 AM
Tampines Fusion
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Just curious, what do you classify as big changes? Some on the list are definitely bigger than an autobid system.

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318174.179 in reply to 318174.176
Date: 5/4/2023 2:30:03 PM
Wavy Gates
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Im confused on what you classify as small, because any change to tactics is major, that shifted the meta a bit. Teams aren’t LI heavy anymore. Teams are running more varied offense and defense now! Once again Alonzo did not say there will be a test, it sounded like a full overhaul of the bid system. That’s where managers pushed back, I guarantee if he mentioned a small test in his proposal. There wouldn’t be as much push back. Only argument going for autobid is not waking up vs people going against provided more concrete points. Which circles back to my statement, “don’t bid on players that will put you in a compromised position.” Have accountability for bidding players that will have YOU up . No one said you have to bid on them, sounds like a blame game if anything…

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318174.180 in reply to 318174.179
Date: 5/4/2023 4:38:18 PM
Redblack Gypaetus
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Well, I´m not here to develop a game, I would like to do so, but I don´t have time, but from my point of view boosting the effectiveness of tactics is not a big change at all.
I guess you want some example like you and other player had said. Well, let´s put some example which came to my mind in a few seconds whithout considerations about the implications. Just a remainder, the point is to show an example o big change, not to show a big change which will improve game experience. The second thing will require to reconsider a lot of times and I don´t have time to do so

Some examples:

change the structure of leagues. Now is more or less, 1-4-16-64-256 an so on... lets put it like 1-4-8-16-32-64-128 and change how much we earn for tv in each division and a lot of more things you will need to change in order readjust everything

Another big change, lets put some more juice in the game. create a few more skills for players and then you probably should change something in time trainings, but I can assure I could come up with at least 10 more skills in five minutes

I assume you don´t like this changes at all, but I will propose a couple more in order to show you what a I consider a big change

lets change how it works salaries in the game, for example lets put a maxim for each división and a penalizations for which teams that surpase the limit, and the fine should go for the rest of the teams on his own division. Something based on NBA system but with some changings

lets put another change, instead of organize teams for countries, let try to create another way to put into groups, in a way we have for example 20 regions withs symilar numbers of divisions and teams, and then reorganize internationals competitions



Just a remainder, I´m not saying that I would like to see these changings, just I want to show you -like you ask- what I consider a big change

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318174.181 in reply to 318174.180
Date: 5/4/2023 8:12:50 PM
Tampines Fusion
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Another big change, lets put some more juice in the game, create a few more skills for players and then you probably should change something in time trainings, but can assure could come up with at least 10 more skills in five minutes

Okay this is big alright but from this I can see why "big changes" such as this don't happen XD

That said, groupings of micronations and the implementation of BBM should be a big change as well since it's somewhat similar to your last point. So I guess they do happen from time to time, we just don't notice it.

lets change how it works salaries in the game, for example lets put a maxim for each división and a penalizations for which teams that surpase the limit, and the fine should go for the rest of the teams on his own division. Something based on NBA system but with some changings

I am all for this tho! I think it has been suggested before but not sure why it died down.

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