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So are you saying south brisbane vultures will be in my position and i'll be lingering in div2 atm if I wasnt so lucky?

true it may be a free pass, but i still had to work hard for it and take the opportunity that was given to me. no such thing as a "free ride"... but i must admit, it is getting tougher by the season.

Brisbane Vultures had 11 wins that season and that's quite amazing comparing with present. that usually would get you out of relo series. Koop tanked most of the season and got just enough wins to be 7th and happens to win it. may this be a lesson for people like Zazz. there's no point trying so hard since iwen already taking 8th. just worry about saving money and win relegation series.

Last edited by datzilla at 12/3/2011 11:45:45 AM

Yes SBV had 11 wins in the ABBL and was a real team. You had three wins for the season and only avoided the auto-relegation because HP Tigers went bot (and gave you two of those three wins). Then in the relegation series as we all know his best player was injured two minutes in and you had the best game of Wazzas career and you somehow won by two points. You had already made millions that season thanks to HP Tigers then that triple stroke of luck allowed you another season in the ABBL where Adam decided to tank and Canberra Crushers went bot allowing you yet another season in the ABBL.

Yes you had to "work hard for it" and "take the opportunity" but if not for multiple teams going bot in the ABBL, SBV losing his best player two minutes into the biggest game of the season and that heroic two point win, you could well be sitting in division II on 6/3 like he is four seasons later.

Lets not even discuss how you got to the ABBL in the first place. We need a new word to describe you, "lucky" is not even close.

I am not meaning this to be an attack on you. You are a smart manager (I have seen you make a lot of brilliant moves and outsmart your opponents constantly; as you said you put yourself in the position to have the luck), a quality person and someone I do admire in this game but you have been given the second biggest gift I have ever heard of in Aussie BB, after adams guns draft of Jone Bogan at #32 and selling him for an incredible $ 4 161 600.

hahhaha i dont take it as an attack... im just pulling your leg. =P

im just just trying to emphasize those famous words " victory loves preparation"
i had to be prepared and plan for for the situation to be able to take advantage of them when it arises..

ive made some brilliant moves and outsmarted some great opponents, but ive also made a lot of silly moves also.. mainly in the CUP games lol.. but at the end of the day and you can fail ten times, but you only need to pass once to reap in the big rewards... thats why you never ever give up!!

HA would be better off if they were spending 200K a week less on players and wasnt worrying about training.

Playing a couple of the better players out of position for training minutes isnt winning HA any games even with the 600k a week players bill

HA would be better off if they were spending 200K a week less on players and wasnt worrying about training.

Playing a couple of the better players out of position for training minutes isnt winning HA any games even with the 600k a week players bill

If you know this, why are you continuing on this road? sell a few and be happier with that extra 200k. Life don't have to be hard you know.

So concede 5th spot and save up for a relegation series against yourself or Zazz?

Bit sad but the reality of this game is that its a lot less work and expense to buy ready made champions than what it is to train them

Well it wasn't like that a few seasons ago but guys that used to be worth $2,500,000 are now worth $500,000 or even less. It is only the truly well balanced and trained players that are perfectly crafted which have kept their value.

It took about 8 seasons of training to shape Pedrosa.

Its true HA wouldnt have received 2 lots of one million promotion bonuses without him, but on todays market Id be lucky to get more than 3 mill for him.

A team could save 3 mill just by tanking a season in the ABBL

So concede 5th spot and save up for a relegation series against yourself or Zazz?

Well it's nearly half the season and you managed 3 wins so far with that roster. Once Pancakes are done with the cup, it's hard to see you holding 5th. I am just giving you a friendly advice, even though, I rather have you holding on to your roster and come 6th or 7th.



Last edited by datzilla at 12/4/2011 5:59:43 PM

At the current rate, I think Zazz and DFBS could easily dispose of the Great 8's 6th and 7th as long as it isn't Pancakes. Pancakes probably won't be in one of those spots and will probably finish 5th. He has the cash to dictate where exactly he wants to finish and I just can't picture him wanting to risk a relegation series when he is better financially at 5th and he has the means to do so.