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LCD, blank lineup, (78509587)

POS Starting-Five (mins)
PG G. Sutherland (36)
SG B. Penkov (19, had to leave injured)
SF G. Walsh (28)
PF G. Marasco (35)
C P. Buchwald (29)

Backups:
PG - R. Bollert (12)
SG - J. Zozaya (29)
SF - I. Nikifarau (20)
PF - V. Skoropad (13)
C - S. Moffett (19)

I would have chosen a different starting SF and backup-PF. The game was a blowout win. Minutes looked good, though.

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1st team: LCD, blank lineup, (78440066)

POS Starting-Five (mins)
PG R. Geugelin (45)
SG H. Brockmann (36)
SF G. Quellmelz (48)
PF T. Harjans (46)
C T. Nürnberg (37)

Backups:
PG - R. Krispl (3)
SG - A. Stoebner (12)
SF - noone
PF - F. Wildenhain (2)
C - J. Poellnitz (11)

We lost this game against a way better opponent. The only two backups who are good enough to play got more than some seconds here and there (Poellnitz, Stoebner). The rest sat out most of the game. Poellnitz (PF) and Stoebner (PG) could have played different positions, too, but as far as I remember, they didn't. No problems on my side here.

These are some encouraging results. However, we still need to test more thoroughly and I'm not completely happy with the substitution minutes in some cases (especially when a starter plays 48 minutes when there are some free backups available. Good work, guys, thanks, and keep it up.

Good news everyone!

I've made some improvements to the BL prevention code and the way it fills the depth chart. It should now make more sense (hopefully) and should, in theory, distribute minutes more evenly. Can't wait to see the test results this Friday!

I made a test today with both teams. I only set 2 positions and let empty the other ones.

The results in game have been strange.

Test 1:

Line-up set: (http://i.imgur.com/PzzvJXM.png)

Result: (78509645)

Comment: Diankha (SF starter) played 39 minutes as SF. Logical. Kukcikaitis (PG starter) played 36 minutes as SG. Wrong position. The 2 subs didn't play in the position set (maybe a few minutes, I didn't watch the full game) but they played as subs (they are actually ugly)

Test 2:

Line-up set: (http://i.imgur.com/iUHoXfN.png)

Result: (78529440)

Comment: Said (C starter) played 40 minutes as C. Logical. Cazacu (PF starter) played 39 minutes as SF. Wrong position. Todorovski (PF sub) played 35 minutes as PF starter. Wrong. Todorovski has an enough level to be starter imo. Touris (C sub) played 8 minutes as C sub. Logical. Touris is not a very good player.

Hope it can help.

Good news everyone!

I've made some improvements to the BL prevention code and the way it fills the depth chart. It should now make more sense (hopefully) and should, in theory, distribute minutes more evenly. Can't wait to see the test results this Friday!

Hi Marin
this is my PL match (78441925)
BL + LCD
everything was ok
players played in right position and substitutions was good

POS Starters
PG W. Okrajek (38) - L. Aysen (10)
SG R. Ehsasi (36) - T. Karopoulos (12)
SF Q. El-Ibrahim (32) - M. Farrokhi (16)
PF F. Brénot (38) - F. Zarafshan (10)
C H. Hakimzadeh (34) - M. Moradi (14)

I made a test today with both teams. I only set 2 positions and let empty the other ones.

The results in game have been strange.

Test 1:

Line-up set: http://i.imgur.com/PzzvJXM.png

Result: (78509645)

Comment: Diankha (SF starter) played 39 minutes as SF. Logical. Kukcikaitis (PG starter) played 36 minutes as SG. Wrong position. The 2 subs didn't play in the position set (maybe a few minutes, I didn't watch the full game) but they played as subs (they are actually ugly)

Test 2:

Line-up set: http://i.imgur.com/iUHoXfN.png

Result: (78529440)

Comment: Said (C starter) played 40 minutes as C. Logical. Cazacu (PF starter) played 39 minutes as SF. Wrong position. Todorovski (PF sub) played 35 minutes as PF starter. Wrong. Todorovski has an enough level to be starter imo. Touris (C sub) played 8 minutes as C sub. Logical. Touris is not a very good player.

Hope it can help.

As I remember Marin said before that BL prevention code kicks in when there are less than 3 positions set. So I believe that your results are actually right - BL prevention code cleaned your line-up (because only 2 positions where set) and treat it like it was totally blank. That is why Kukcikaitis (PG starter) played 36 minutes as SG - because he was picked to be SG by the BL prevention code. Same thing with Todorovski. Everything looks good now.

Are there results how it works when only 3 positions are set and 2 are left blank?

Well, I actually saw that Marin planned the cleaning for less than 2 positions set.

This feature will only be used when none or just one starter is set.

That's why I made this test, maybe Marin changed the rule and I didn't see it.

I'll test with 3 positions set next friday (or 2 again, actually I can do whatever Marin wants)

Last edited by philoumiha at 11/23/2014 5:24:45 AM

LCD, blank lineup, (78440072)

POS Starting-Five
PG R. Geugelin (39 mins)
SG A. Stoebner (36 mins)
SF G. Quellmelz (39 mins)
PF T. Harjans (38 mins)
C T. Nürnberg (39 mins)

Reserves played between 9 and 12 minutes, two players didn't play at all (which was alright, they're really old and useless). The game wasn't a blowout so the minutes seem to be high for the starters. But that's mostly due to the fact that the backups are in all cases worse (some much worse) players than the starters. I'll try and set two better players as backups next week to see what happens then.

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LCD, blank lineup, (78509589)

POS Starting-Five
PG G. Sutherland (39 mins)
SG J. Zozaya (37 mins)
SF B. Penkov (35 mins)
PF S. MacKechnie (36 mins)
C P. Buchwald (37 mins)

Reserves played between 9 and 13 mins, two players didn't step on the floor. I have to say that they weren't too bad to be playing. It just seems that the coach preferred other players. Moffet is the worst of my Centers but Doughty's skills are nearly the same as Bollert's.
The choices for the starters are ok. I would have expected that Walsh played a little more minutes as backup-C because his skills aren't that much worse than Buchwald's.
But again the coach did a good job.

If you need some other testing please let me know.

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That is the post I was refering to.


"So far, we hadn't made much progress due to the fact that the testing parameters were too great. This is something I intend to fix. Let's start with the basics...

1. A change in the code: if there's less than 4 starters set, the *feature* will kick in. This means that you need to set at least 3 starters in order to avoid the new code wiping out all of the starting lineup and setting a completely new one on it's own."