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114356.177 in reply to 114356.174
Date: 11/3/2009 6:59:44 PM
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you can buy all the best players cause you can pay easily the salaries. These factors could create more gap between the first divisions and the others, anyway is really interesting to check what will be
I don't think it would create a bigger gap. I suspect, and hope, the opposite. If a team with great reserves and good income buy all the best players this would use some or all of the reserves while buying them and lessen the overall income, thus making the gap smaller over time. At first that team will gain an advantage ofcourse, but they should since they just used their reserves and lessened their income.
What is good about that is that it forces the other teams in the same league to invest their savings to stay competitive, and the result is more money out of the game in form of salaries. And also put bigger pressure on the higher divisions, keeping them under pressure to use their money instead of making major parachutes for when the times get tough. Training will also become increasingly hard if you want to stay in the top divisions, forcing teams to buy players that are allready trained to a high level from smaller division teams, also bringing more money from the top div teams.
Some of the transfer amounts goes to FA (out of the game), while some goes to other managers whom then saves or reinvests in new arena (cap on maximum attendants already introduced) or players (some % to FA and out of the game). Also there are the fee you pay when selling.

What I am trying to say is that this raise in the market prices was foreseen as a result of this seasons changes, with arena deconstructions bringing a lot more money into the game in a short period of time. The magnitude was perhaps more uncertain, and that is one of the reasons FA came back until further notice. Stabilising the market must take time, if to many factors to bring money out of the game to fast were introduced, this will also skew the balance and upset a lot of players (too many FA's would hurt those that have the best possibilities to -and are most dependent on training to sell (smaller division teams)).
There are so many factors to the balance of the game, and we have to remember that the main goal is to get a self-adjusting balance. Putting pressure on the top teams may be the key. I think we are moving in the right direction. But I think we all need a little patience.

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114356.179 in reply to 114356.11
Date: 11/6/2009 6:15:16 PM
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This week there´re loads of FA´s, I can really understand introducing FA´s in the market but I don´t get the point of adding loads of them near Play-Offs. This year BB economy is being an epic fail and now it can´t change radically cause it would be another injustice (again).

We can asume the market is high, ok, but let it flow this year and with new salaries we´ll see the new situation. So please, add 10-15 FA´s per week but not 30-40 at this point of the season. It makes no sense!!!!

See u



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Date: 11/6/2009 11:18:50 PM
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The reason for more free agents i suspect is because as more and more managers get disillusioned with the lack of economic stability they leave the game and in turn leave behind more players that are suitable to add to the free agent list.

Its a catch 22 situation but Im still yet to be convinced if the inflation has or hasnt been accepted by the community. I would watch the overall number of managers in the game and then you can perhaps make an estimation as to how many free agents might be released at any given time.

I wonder if there are any more plans on the horizon to help find another 5-10,000 BB managers?

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Date: 11/7/2009 6:49:36 AM
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man, guys retired at season 4 are now on the maket, and never got old, r u kidding me?

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Date: 11/7/2009 7:00:46 AM
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I think so...

This new idea was really bad imho

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114356.183 in reply to 114356.181
Date: 11/7/2009 9:40:16 AM
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If that is true thats horrible.

And t removes yearly cump in prices before play offs away which was a natural thing many could count with /me included). Shame on BBs really. :(

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Date: 11/7/2009 10:54:33 AM
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If that is true thats horrible.

And t removes yearly cump in prices before play offs away which was a natural thing many could count with /me included). Shame on BBs really. :(


I create and manage a strategy wich includes league position, training, arena expansion and selling time based on the fact we where having an inflation that was supposed to be followed by a smoothly deflation until prices find a "balanced" point.

Now it seems that waves of FAs are going to crush our market, posibly causing an accelerated deflation process.

I did not like the inflation we where having but I made plans considering that scenario, I try to adapt to it and not chill about it. Now there seems to be another change to screw my medium-long term planification.

I understand it is important to control inflation but the "monetary" authority(a.k.a BBs) should tell us what they are thinking. I did not have to opportunity to change my plans, if they would tell us something like "since the actual measures are not having the effect we expected, we are considering to increase the amount of players listed as FAs. This is something we are simply considering and we do not know of we are going to do it or not, this will depend of observed market behavior". With that, I could be able to adjust my plans or leave them as they were on my own word.

I really believed that BBs learnt the lesson whit the first release of FAs: Yes, we do want a stable economy and we support the measures to achieve it but you have let us know what are you planning in order to adapt our expectations and plans.

It seems I was wrong.

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Date: 11/7/2009 11:15:49 AM
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Just because you fail to adapt to changes, doesn't mean you should blame the BBs. Good managers can adapt.

It seems you have no idea where you are talking about at all. The so called 'wave of FAs' aren't crushing the market, there is no deflation yet. The BBs already said several times what's gonna happen in the long run when the equilibrum is reached. They expect that the prices will be lower then. What's the point of repeating this.

Also almost all changes are announced way before in news items, if you refuse to change your strategy because of the items, then that's your choice. A good example is the announcement about the game engine changes. The BBs announce way before that several skills would be more important, like shot blocking and passing. Training scheme's didn't change much. The new game engine was released and many managers were cursing the engine. That's not because the engine was bad, it was because they failed to change their training strategy two seasons before the engine was released. They blamed someone else, while the made a mistake by theirselves.


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Date: 11/7/2009 11:25:01 AM
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Just because you fail to adapt to changes, doesn't mean you should blame the BBs. Good managers can adapt.

It seems you have no idea where you are talking about at all. The so called 'wave of FAs' aren't crushing the market, there is no deflation yet. The BBs already said several times what's gonna happen in the long run when the equilibrum is reached. They expect that the prices will be lower then. What's the point of repeating this.

Also almost all changes are announced way before in news items, if you refuse to change your strategy because of the items, then that's your choice. A good example is the announcement about the game engine changes. The BBs announce way before that several skills would be more important, like shot blocking and passing. Training scheme's didn't change much. The new game engine was released and many managers were cursing the engine. That's not because the engine was bad, it was because they failed to change their training strategy two seasons before the engine was released. They blamed someone else, while the made a mistake by theirselves.



You are not getting it.

An increase of FA would, very likely, start to slow down the velocity at wich prices were rising. Do you agree or not? If you agree, it follows that having all the rest the same, deflation will eventually happen in closer time and in a faster way that if the increase in FAs did not ocurr.

I do adapt to changes. In fact, I adapt my plans for the until-a-few-days-scenario. Very likely, I will do it again.

My whole point is not about me changing plans. Is about the way BBs are behaving when it comes to manage the economy, more specifically, our expectations. Because, what they are NOT doing is to tell us what they are going to do(like they do with changes in the GE); my point is, we should know if they are thinking to make any moves in the market in order to consider that in our plans. In order to choose by ourself and not simply being obligated to wake up every three weeks with a new, unexpected, economic measure that thwarts your plan.

This is a more complex issue. It also have to do with what the designers want for their game.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/7/2009 11:42:27 AM

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Date: 11/7/2009 11:28:23 AM
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deflation will eventually happen in closer time and in a faster way that if the increase in FAs did not ocurr


By this you seem to think deflation is inevitable with our without FA's. If so, why? I don't see any reason that prices were set to go down.

edit - got to love this post rating system, that this post managed to offend someone and draw a 1 rating is awesome

Last edited by brian at 11/7/2009 11:59:07 AM

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