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@Bobbanana and General Manager Nick.

I'm not a mod/gm but....

this discussion is about 2nd team, not about "what do you think is the right feature to have best number of supporters?".

I think there is a right space where you can discuss about other suggestion than this.

This topic will be so long, and it will be difficult to follow every think/idea, if 10 consecutive posts are about something different, it generates confusion and free off topic.

I'm not against it, but just try to mantain a certain order.


After it: I'm discussing about advantage of "more matches" for supporters.
1) Do you really think you can copy exactly your roster? Because if i want an experiment, i have to made the same with all the situation. And it's senseless experiment the functioning of LI with an 800k Salary roster when with the other team i can afford only 300k wage or vice versa. And this is the normal situation.
2)Do you know you can use the same amount of the match to "scout" and experiment things? I've an User in my league, no supporter, who simply watching my matches and reports, can define the skillset of a player. And he has from 80 to 95% chances to guess it. So it's not properly a "guess". I did that "game" last time on Saturday matches, he define my C Skillset with only 1 big error, OD, where he gave +3 than real value. Except this, he describes the skillset with only 2 (1 value) skill error.

No, no and once more no. Im a long time supporter and i dont want second team.

You've your idea, and i respect, but do you now it's not a must to activate 2nd team? Just only a choice? You're free guy.

Also to not activate the second time. If it will be available.

To play against others 2nd teams isn't a choice.

For sure, but sorry, probably i forget something, but i don't see the negative in it.
If he plays smart, it's an interesting opponent. Should be a good thing, isn't it? Or you like to be promoted/win just because you have no opponent?

If he plays wrong/as a farm.... Nothing change. Or not?

This seems mostly to be a discussion between supporters and non-supporters.

I think it's a great idea. The only downside I see is secundairy teams ruining the draft picks. For instance get a bunch of secundairy teams in a country who is your rival. Tank for top picks, and don't train them. Mission accomplished!

Besides that I see only benefits to secundairy teams. Finally something to really motivate people to buy Supporter. A good method to get more real teams in the lower levels. And an opportunity to go international, I love meeting people from different countries/cultures.

Last edited by Oranjeman at 1/13/2014 3:44:11 AM

For sure, but sorry, probably i forget something, but i don't see the negative in it.
If he plays smart, it's an interesting opponent. Should be a good thing, isn't it? Or you like to be promoted/win just because you have no opponent?

If he plays wrong/as a farm.... Nothing change. Or not?

I have to disagree with you on this matter, I know I would simply hate to play in league with someone from USA or China(once again I randomly picked two nations which have a lot of users/supporters), and I believe I am not only one who thinks like this... We have nothing in common, different language, different lifestyle, different interests, and even different time when we play bb... I probably wouldnt quit bb because of that, or something like that, but my in game enjoyment will be less...

Ok so no B3 for secondary teams. Why not adding another international cup onl for secondary teams. Like you have in football the Champions League ( Which would be the B3 for primary teams ) and than you would ad a certain Euro League for secondary teams?

Besides that, I voted yes as I think it is a great opportunity for BB!

Last edited by Peja at 1/13/2014 3:52:20 AM

i am a non supporter and i might buy a supporter package to have a second team. (i might buy one anyway if there won't be the implication of this feature). i think i wouldn't join a micronation but a nation i feel connected to. or maybe just a french speaking country to practice my language skills. there are a lot of different motivations to have a second team.

but still i tend to vote NO. as a new user (i play my second season right now), i know how it feels like to start a game where everyone seems to know a lot of things that you can't read or learn in some manual. i think i picked up the game very quickly and may have a shot to promote soon or at least at some point. this is mainly because i play against other newbies and some old managers without much motivation. if i started in a small country where the top teams are from various countries and have a lot of skill and experience BUT do not share it with me (because why would they. not everyone is friendly and helpful) i think my motivation would vanish pretty soon.

i did not vote yet because maybe some of you are right and playing against experienced managers is more fun than playing against bots. but at some point you just want to promote no matter if you play bots or other managers and for some new managers this might be depressing if this is too hard.

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i supported the idea of a womens league or utopia, but i don't see many managers buying supporter just for this. in this case it doesn't give you more money but just more expenses. and it doesn't solve any problem reagrding micronations.

hmm...

Hattrick did something different, they opened completely the leagues (i'm not supporter/was never being and i'm managing a Malta Team from my subscription.Before leaving the game i was in Italyand uers was around 900k).

Is it good or not? don't know, i don't follow numeric values.

But it's a try.

For sure, but sorry, probably i forget something, but i don't see the negative in it.
If he plays smart, it's an interesting opponent. Should be a good thing, isn't it? Or you like to be promoted/win just because you have no opponent?

If he plays wrong/as a farm.... Nothing change. Or not?

I have to disagree with you on this matter, I know I would simply hate to play in league with someone from USA or China(once again I randomly picked two nations which have a lot of users/supporters), and I believe I am not only one who thinks like this... We have nothing in common, different language, different lifestyle, different interests, and even different time when we play bb... I probably wouldnt quit bb because of that, or something like that, but my in game enjoyment will be less...

I think this is a "storical" or "linked to tradition" motivation, and it can be understood but...let me answer in this simply way.

you're probably playing with a pc, no? He's done from companies with nothing in common with you. As you told.
And you're also using an OS. you can set your language, but also this is done by different people.
Ok, i'm joking.
Really, Different language but you've not to speak with him (or at least, isn't too necessary). And, don't know where you live, but there are "enclaves" of people from others nation in every single nation of the world, don't think this will be a problem.
Different lifestyle isn't so important in BB... also me and another italian user have different.. same like interests.
Different time is a problem solved because BB is active 24/7, so still don't know where is the problem. I play BB in a different time still from every italian user.