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271948.179 in reply to 271948.178
Date: 8/8/2015 5:05:43 PM
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I've seen a lot of elections go by since S12, and I'm just gonna put it out there as I see it.

GOLDBEAR: Not the same lovable GODBEAR I once fell in love with. Stop tarnishing his rep bruh

Thegame: I can tell you're a skilled manager, and you definitely have a solid resume. But running a micro nation is nothing like running the USA team. I led the Jamaican U21 once upon a time back in the day, did it prepare me for running the US? No, definitely not. I don't think you're a bad manager by any means, but I can just see this ending up like Jason's tenure as NT manager back in the day. (If anyone still remembers that)

Phyr: Not really sure what to say. I am sure you'd do just fine as manager, but I don't really see anything special happening. And that's ok! But I just don't see the risk-taking personality that can set a manager apart during a big decision. Don't always go by the book. What the offsite says isn't the say all end all if you feel differently.

Oriolekid: You've seen a lot and that history would give you a lot of perspective, I think you'd be a fine choice as well, but like Phyr I haven't really seen anything that sets you apart from everybody else.

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271948.180 in reply to 271948.179
Date: 8/8/2015 5:16:00 PM
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"I hardly think you can describe your team as "America's Team". lol."
- Adchester, in regards to the Toccoa Panthers 8/1/2011

I will have no further comments regarding your anti-American sentiments.

From: Phyr

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271948.181 in reply to 271948.179
Date: 8/8/2015 5:16:03 PM
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Is using Motion in World's semifinal is not risky enough for you? I doubt any top country in the tournament would have considered it in that situation. I decided to TIE most of the second round games even though a loss would have prevented us from reaching a semis. I dont really agree with your characterization.

Last edited by Phyr at 8/8/2015 5:22:44 PM

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271948.182 in reply to 271948.178
Date: 8/8/2015 5:38:34 PM
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Any American is welcome to contribute to the discussion if I am reelected. The more viewpoints the better IMHO. During the finals, we had the input of about 20 managers. I know you aren't a fan of the offsite, but I think its the most effective and secure way to communicate. In the past I know we have have a PR guy make posts about U21 in the public USA forum, but I don't really like post information about the team in public places because I know that foreign nations browse our forum looking for info.

During game nights especially Tuesday, I try to be in the #USA chat room and the offsite chat. I am open to other types of communication, but I think the manager should be primarily focused scouting and gameplanning. We have nearly 400 players in the pipeline, and managing all of that takes a lot of time. If someone wants to step up and be our PR point person, I would be all for that to manage the other types of communication.

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271948.183 in reply to 271948.180
Date: 8/8/2015 5:52:30 PM
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I stand by my statement

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271948.184 in reply to 271948.181
Date: 8/8/2015 6:02:11 PM
Flashover
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Agreed. Phyr actually did make some final decisions about TIE during the last Worlds run, we would not stand a chance making it to face Italy let alone walking away with a win if Phyr didn't make those decisions. I stand by Phyr with his bold moves last season.

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271948.185 in reply to 271948.183
Date: 8/8/2015 6:08:34 PM
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I stand by my statement

You're alive???

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271948.186 in reply to 271948.185
Date: 8/8/2015 7:56:47 PM
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Of all the debates I've seen within debate threads over the years I've been active, having a prolonged one attacking the offsite is one of the dumbest. I'm not saying you're wrong to do so- you are but that's not my point- but we haven't asked any useful questions for us candidates to answer, which is concerning, unless everyone has just conceded to Phyr already.

Last edited by oriolekid at 8/8/2015 7:57:22 PM

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271948.188 in reply to 271948.186
Date: 8/8/2015 8:04:09 PM
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"The proud person thinks that he has received on his own merits the gifts he has, as if God was obliged to give them to him..."

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