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132117.18 in reply to 132117.17
Date: 2/21/2010 6:15:23 PM
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I myself spend 20k just because i end up in the top of my league most years i've had my team, and that gets you enough information to try to get a really good prospect in the 1st round.... And every year but 1 i have found a great prospect

My wife is trying something, she has a team in div. V and she is undefeated yet the teams keep going bot, or changing out so even though she will have the last pick in the draft she is putting 40k a week in just to see if she cant get 2-3 great prospects.

I think there could be different strategies just depending on how you are in the standings, if their are a bunch of teams going bot or not and so forth.

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132117.19 in reply to 132117.16
Date: 2/21/2010 10:42:46 PM
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I didn't say such scenarios do not happen. I said they are rare especially when you are in competitive divisions with active managers.

Even if you are top of the league in a bot division 4/5 league, I wouldn't spend more than 20k for scout reports. Its just a waste of cash. You're better off taking the saved cash (you're looking at 14 week of 20k extra = 280k) and spending it on a better player. But thats just my opinion

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132117.20 in reply to 132117.19
Date: 2/22/2010 12:00:34 AM
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And a valid one at that. I really didn't scout that much last year, A. i started almost 2 thirds into the season and B. just left my scouting on 20k for most of the time. Last season i got to pick 9th in my league, i drafted the best player in the entire draft.

You can spend the 480K a season to get a little extra information, but in the end i doubt it will help you in the draft, especially if you play in an active league as many other players with better draft picks with you may scout the same players.

I have dont the 20k scouting all season and i'm second in the league, obviously i'm going to get a horrible draft pick but i'm hoping that i will still be able to draft a player i want.

remember that even if you draft a good player and wish to sell him, if you've done the 40k scouting and sell him for 500k you only make 20k. Not really worth drafting him in the first place when you could have just chanced it... instead you could save the 280k, and spend it on your arena or a better player, you can get a fairly decent player for about 300k (relative to your div).

But i understand that you may want to draft THE best player in the draft and maybe if you are coming last it might be a good idea to do the 40k scouting.... But it's not really worth it IMO

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132117.21 in reply to 132117.12
Date: 2/22/2010 11:05:51 AM
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I am in a league with a bunch of bots. How well do these bot teams draft? Totally random? Or do the top picks still usually get the better players?

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132117.23 in reply to 132117.13
Date: 2/22/2010 11:40:14 AM
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I treated such $40K a week for scouting as routie expenditure and consumed by spare money only, therefore it has not much impact on my team building. Besides, i also want to see the result if i keep doing in whole season, i think you guys wish to know too, just few weeks to go and i feel comfortable to pay for it.

The last but not the least, i still have the chance to get into relegation playoff with home advantage, the gate receipt is quite attractive in position 6th.

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132117.24 in reply to 132117.23
Date: 2/22/2010 1:49:59 PM
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I think there's one important factor that hasn't been mentioned yet... what level your league is.

I am of the opinion that scouting is more important at the higher levels. Think about it; if you're a level IV team (as I am), are you really going to be able to draft a John Wall, no matter how much money you spend on scouting? Great players simply aren't available to you.

Of the players that are available to a league IV, the difference between the best and the worst is not that great. It certainly isn't worth $490K (the difference between spending $40K a week and $5K a week on scouting for a season). Heck, if you're IV, your entire team may not be worth $490K.

As a USA IV team, I'm considering cutting my scouting to $0 and buying all my prospects off the transfer list. Why not? Sure, I have to win a bidding war, and high potential drives the price way up. But I can pick the players with the exact positions and qualities I want, I'm not limited to Division IV players, I'm not limited to players from my own nation, and I'm not limited to (or forced to take) three players every year. And the draft creates a glut of castoffs, increased supply that lowers the cost of buying a player.

After three seasons, my best prospects have been guys I bought as transfers for small amounts of money -- less than even the $70K it costs to do minimum scouting for a year. The draft has given me almost nothing of value.

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132117.25 in reply to 132117.24
Date: 2/22/2010 2:01:46 PM
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I am of the opinion that scouting is more important at the higher levels. Think about it; if you're a level IV team (as I am), are you really going to be able to draft a John Wall, no matter how much money you spend on scouting? Great players simply aren't available to you.


quality of the draftees doesn't depend on the division. you can draft john wall or even MJ in division V.

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132117.26 in reply to 132117.25
Date: 2/22/2010 2:33:55 PM
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In my USA Level IV League, my first three drafts, scouting at 10K and picking between 5th and 13th, produced some very talented players - 4 of which I've been developing, several that I was able to sell for 300K plus.

Last season I had increased scouting to 20K, ended picking 15th. All three of my players were busts who I had cut, or sold for 1K.

this season, I will pick 16th, and I've been scouting at 5K. As people have said earlier, I'd rather save the money and purchase young talent -- the draft is so random, esp as you get into the later picks.

What I think would be fun is if you could see your first round pick, then reset the order for the second round - just seems there's not a lot of control over the players you are drafting. -oo-

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132117.28 in reply to 132117.25
Date: 2/22/2010 4:46:59 PM
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quality of the draftees doesn't depend on the division. you can draft john wall or even MJ in division V.


Seriously? Wow, that shatters my conceptions.

But what's still unclear is how spending more money increases your chances of getting a great player. Especially if you pick late in the draft.

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