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154705.18 in reply to 154705.17
Date: 9/18/2010 8:24:36 AM
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You're not the first to suggest something needs to be done about this but the BBs are yet to do anything about it.

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154705.19 in reply to 154705.17
Date: 9/18/2010 11:54:53 AM
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I completely disagree, I look for players all the time and I find that the majority of players have bids on them.
Could you share what skills you are looking for on the guard? Or give examples of guards that are listed wayyyyy above their market value.

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154705.20 in reply to 154705.19
Date: 9/18/2010 12:22:56 PM
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I completely disagree, I look for players all the time and I find that the majority of players have bids on them.
Could you share what skills you are looking for on the guard? Or give examples of guards that are listed wayyyyy above their market value.


Try this:

Jumpshot: 9
Passing: 8
Age max: 23
salary min: 20.000

Thats more or less the player I am looking for, I estimate that 1 out of 15 has a bid, the others are listed at prices nobody wants to pay... Also the filter I use is not very specific...

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154705.21 in reply to 154705.20
Date: 9/18/2010 12:33:36 PM
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The first 10 players that came up were exceptional players though. Very young, very good potential and very good skills.

Players like this:
Weekly salary: $ 57 561
Age: 22
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: marvelous Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: prolific
Driving: tremendous Passing: strong
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: awful

Weekly salary: $ 47 368
Age: 22
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: prolific
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: sensational
Driving: prolific Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: awful

Experience: awful


Weekly salary: $ 54 878
Age: 23
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: wondrous Handling: sensational
Driving: wondrous Passing: proficient
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: strong

Experience: inept

Weekly salary: $ 66 237
Age: 23
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: marvelous Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: wondrous
Driving: marvelous Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: mediocre


Those are very good players, and you have to expect to pay a lot for them.
I think part of the reason many of them don't have bids is because they are not eligible for playoffs, and everyone is waiting on the draft before picking up young players. And some of them do have bids.
Some of them are overpriced, but bbmail the owner an offer and he might relist it at that price.

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154705.22 in reply to 154705.21
Date: 9/18/2010 12:46:08 PM
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Those are very good players, and you have to expect to pay a lot for them.
I think part of the reason many of them don't have bids is because they are not eligible for playoffs, and everyone is waiting on the draft before picking up young players. And some of them do have bids.
Some of them are overpriced, but bbmail the owner an offer and he might relist it at that price.


The majority wont get sold - and thats the problem I adressed. I dont want to see a market flooded with players that aren't for sale technically becaus the owner can expect not to get a player sold for the price he asks. Thats not how auction markets are intended to work!

The only players that get sold for realistic prices seem to be the free agents...

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154705.23 in reply to 154705.22
Date: 9/18/2010 1:08:52 PM
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The only thing that will change is that these players will simply not be listed anymore, because no one in their right mind is going to sell one of those players for under 2 million dollars. Having those players up for sale at a higher price isn't hurting anyone, and if I had the money, I would definitely consider buying one of those players, so the problem isn't that they are overpriced, the problem is I don't have enough money to buy the player.

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154705.24 in reply to 154705.23
Date: 9/18/2010 1:15:11 PM
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Having those players up for sale at a higher price isn't hurting anyone


Of course it does not hurt, but it is a huge annoyance to search the market with so many players out there that in reality are not up for sale - if you search a specific player and get 100 results you can assume that maybe 20-25 of those players are your "real" results and the rest is just overpriced spam/junk/whatever.

Maybe it would solve the problem for me if you could filter to show only players that already have a bid placed on them.


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154705.25 in reply to 154705.24
Date: 9/18/2010 1:21:11 PM
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Why don't you just set the filter so that any player over a certain price is excluded. So if you set it to 3 million or whatever your budget is, it will avoid all these players.

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154705.26 in reply to 154705.25
Date: 9/24/2010 9:17:17 PM
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that is exactly what i do

there is 0 point looking at players being sold for 10x what they are worth so if i am looking for a young guard i may go

od 8, js 8, jr 7, pa 7, age <23 sal >10k, bid <600k

easy

and there are 7 like that right now including 1 for $1, 1 for $50, 1 for 106k, 1 for 200k none are free agents -doesnt mean they will set that low but that is the market working

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154705.27 in reply to 154705.26
Date: 9/26/2010 5:46:24 PM
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If you guys are really worried about day trading I have mentioned this ten times before it can be stopped in a second by simply giving all new players a team buys from the TL a "guaranteed" contract of X weeks. Until X weeks is up the player cannot be listed for sale, sold or sacked. Simple.

For the value of X I suggest two but four would be even stricter and not unreasonable. One tactic that I think is very fair is a lot of trainers who do one position training will buy 2-3 extra players when they do skills that require two positions, like rebounds, then at the end of the training period sell those guys at a big profit. I think this is perfectly fair and good and four weeks wouldn't lock them in for too long.

Note: Players on a newly created team or draft picks haven't signed any contract yet so they can be sold, sacked at will, thisrule is only for players that are bought, so that they cannot be bought one day and relisted the next for an intended profit.

This isn't to say that I haven't heard of players reporting to a team and being sent home straight away. This used to happen all the time in the Aussie NBL back in the 90s. There was a phenomon called "Pacific Shrink". A team would sign a 6'10" C straight out of college in the USA, then when the player arrived he would really be 6'7". There was even a player who turned up and couldn't walk and hadn't mentioned he would be out injured for the next three months. hese guys got sent right back home, but I guarantee the recruiting tea didn't get rich off these guys.

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154705.28 in reply to 154705.27
Date: 9/27/2010 12:31:32 AM
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hey yoda, isn't pacific shrink what you get when you go swimming in the ocean on a very cold day?