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158829.18 in reply to 158829.17
Date: 10/10/2010 12:55:31 PM
MightyMice
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Lol ok I saw it already. I always thought they mysteriously disappeared


you did!? I am checking elsewhere and noticed nothing... probably lost in the move?!

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158829.19 in reply to 158829.1
Date: 10/10/2010 6:11:38 PM
MightyMice
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My staff did another wonderful job to me, analyzing all last 4 seasons drafts in MBBA and all II series. This is a preliminary task, as it does not include III series draftees, as Abdul bid Dahlan, filters above a given potential, and is based on sometime misleading salaries, and will be followed by a full check, including III series draftees and one by one calling & checking, if I will be elected (otherwise it will be in charge of new coach).

This task has three main purposes:

1) gaining a rough understanding of the roster we could have at the start. It is not much precise, as being based only on salaries, but give some good idea of where Malaysia will start from
2) understand how training patterns were, and which could be urgent changes
3) set the basis for further analysis of qualification round for matches planning

Here I post analysis, in next post the comments.

Excluding III series draftees, as bin Dahlan or Abd Rahman, already in Malaysia U21 roster, these are top three in salary that I would check first:

(age, salary, name)
PG's:
We can add bin Dahlan on top to the list. We can say that we have just two PG's, one (bin Dahlan) 21 old. The other are definitely unlikely to be called at the beginning: better in fact a SG with some decent secondaries than a poor all around PG. I hope that salaries not only depends on DR and HN, but also on JS, OD, JR and PA to be checked.
20 $19,784.00 Mohd Shahrul bin Saidi
19 $7,693.00 Mohd Zulfakri bin Yusuf
20 $6,749.00 Muhd bin Ali

SG
Better here in numbers, but not so happy. I know well my Seretse Netshivhazwaulu in South Africa, more a well trained PG than a SG, and "our" Malaysian cannot be better, unfortunately. As training SG is not so hard, we have some potential to grow. It is hard to think to confirm currently called Amrie bin Abd Rahman, 11K$ in salary.
20 $16,767 Suhaizi Osman
21 $14,419 Irwandy bin Mohd Hanifa
20 $14,157 Musa Abd Majid

SF
This is intriguing and could even be promising. It is almost impossible to predict skills of a SF based on salary, as this is the most complex role. However, we could have here some SG with good secondaries.
21 $18,553 Ungku Ismail bin Salleh
21 $17,812 Hao Cong
20 $17,468 AP Mohd Shahrul bin Mohd Zain

PF
This is a little drama. Malaysia has no PF. To give you a reference, in South Africa Chisiza (14K$) has 44 as IS+ID+RB, and Mahabane (19K$) 45. These player cannot compete even against them.
18 $7,724 Zulkiflee bin Abu Bakar
19 $7,685 Norizam bin Abu Samah
20 $7,051 Hahi bin Askolani

C
Here story is a little better, hoping that SB has not much impact on these players' salaries and their backups. Having enough mass, there is room to work.
21 $35,087.00 C Shaiful Bahri bin Dani
21 $23,368.00 C Ahmad Shaharuddin bin Shahrum
21 $20,047.00 C Ashaari bin Che Omar

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158829.20 in reply to 158829.19
Date: 10/10/2010 6:12:55 PM
MightyMice
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Comments to previous post:

Roster
In summary, Malaysia is without properly called PF's and with a minimal roster in PG's. If other roles will be covered as expected, it will be an anomalous team, with a probable tendence to play better inside.

The good news are that some players could come out of III series draftees (we have at least an example) and that there is enough mass to start intensive, monorole training programs. In fact, having many managers that could be stimulated on that, some will surely proceed on the right, fast way, with some recovery of gaps this season, and a far better situation by end of mandate.

2) training patterns
it is crystal clear that the mass of players had far than optimal trainings, i.e. multi vs monorole. Although this could look like better for a team, it is not - otherwise I would not have climbed to II series from V. Not counting III series draftees, we have more SG's with potential 6 or above than the overall amount of PG's+SG's with potential 3 or above so there is an impressive potential to be deployed. Scouting will be much more critical than expected - and could bring better results.

3) scheduling analysis
it's in progress. I would not put anyway anything here. It is too early (first, we have to check which actual skills players have), and I would not like to tell much to Malaysia's opponents.

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158829.21 in reply to 158829.20
Date: 10/10/2010 9:45:48 PM
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wahha.. gud gud... ditch amrie... let my bro's merchandise fall so I can catch up with him :P

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158829.23 in reply to 158829.22
Date: 10/11/2010 1:52:23 AM
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I will send the merchandising reduction bill to kensei if Amrie gets booted

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158829.25 in reply to 158829.24
Date: 10/11/2010 2:00:38 AM
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or even with kicks to ass! >:)

edit: Btw bro I won't be training Amrie any more.. gonna concentrate on the new draft pick, Abdul-Qadir Kazim, Izwan & Riz.


Last edited by Simply Vince at 10/11/2010 2:01:50 AM

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158829.27 in reply to 158829.23
Date: 10/11/2010 3:47:12 AM
MightyMice
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I will send the merchandising reduction bill to kensei if Amrie gets booted


unfortunately Amrie looks like to be well behind his competitors ^^

edit: behind, not beyond, crazy me

Last edited by GM-BlackMouse at 10/11/2010 6:56:12 AM

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158829.28 in reply to 158829.27
Date: 10/11/2010 6:22:23 AM
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u reckon? you listed quite a few players with much higher salaries

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