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20034.18 in reply to 20034.16
Date: 3/22/2008 7:44:46 AM
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There was a player with lvl 15 or 16 rebounding & nothing else on the TM last week, his salary only went up to $16k or something close.


Na, I've seen a player with I think about 17 rebounding and nothing else whos salary went up to about 25k.

Then I see a guard with 13 JS and 9 JR who only got about 15k salary now.


@ ned: This discussion is not about not being able to pay salaries or not. It's about the difference between salaries of C's and G's which shouldn't be there (imo).
I think the players who are great guards will feel discriminated now, because they only get half of the salary of a center ;).

Edit: I found a perfect example to prove my point: Albert Diefenbach (3071008), just posted in the transfer ad topic. JS: 10, HD: 10, DR: 11, and only 9,4k salary. A center with 10 IS, 10 ID and 11 RB would have 20k+ salary.


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20034.19 in reply to 20034.18
Date: 3/22/2008 7:59:07 AM
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Wouldn't that just be reflective of the curve that salarys take as the levels increase?

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20034.20 in reply to 20034.18
Date: 3/22/2008 7:59:45 AM
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Sorry for the OT, anyway I think there is a relation between the salary and the skills trained. "Secondary" skills are not so important as defense for example and you can see this in the player posted here above. Then you can see in the team of Andrè that there is a difference in terms of results between the centers and the guards. Having good centers can give you more benefits than guards and as I've written before a center is much easier to be trained compare to a guard. Of course imho

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20034.21 in reply to 20034.19
Date: 3/22/2008 8:05:15 AM
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Wouldn't that just be reflective of the curve that salarys take as the levels increase?


Yes I agree on this one, but the difference is just too big between a C and a G (can't keep telling this hehe, this is the last time haha )

At this moment it seems it would be much cheaper to build a purely outside based team, (even more since the strength of shooter improved) since those outside players stay well low at their salary but they do get nice ratings.

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20034.22 in reply to 20034.21
Date: 3/22/2008 8:18:06 AM
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Can I ask, without wanting to annoy you with questions you have most likely answered already, what positions do you train?

If you are a guard trainer with guards who have 4x+ prom+ skill levels (or maybe better) who has seen this first hand then I will admit my wrong.

I train inside, and my opinions are based purely off the guards I have seen on the market who dont have the levels that my inside trainees do over the same amount of skills.

Until I see proof that a guard with say prom level JS, OD, HN, PA has a considerable lower salary than a center with prom level IS, ID & RDB I just dont see guards having lower salaries on a whole in comparison to inside players.

I realise that the inside players seem to be getting paid more but that could just show that the inside trainers are training their players properly instead of concentrating on improving the 1 skill (JS seems to be all the free agents have)

I can be swayed on this, but until i see the proof of a guard with the same number of skills as a centre with a considerable lower salary I am going to keep on thinking that it is due to the points I raised earlier.

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20034.23 in reply to 20034.21
Date: 3/22/2008 8:21:21 AM
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I dont know why all center trainers start complaining suddenly.

it is way easier to train centers, cause u only have to train 4 skills, compared to 6 skills for a guard. Thats one reason why so many decided to train centers.

probably salaries will be measured by the average of their skills, while more important skills weight more heavily then the others. Therefore a guard with respectable JS and inept rebounding will have a higher salary then a guard with inept JS and respectable rebounding.
Considering this a center will obviously have a higher salary since the only have 4 very important skills.

so if one thing have got to change it is not that guards should have higher salaries, it is that guards need to train faster. then theier salaries will be as high as the salaries of the centers.
e.g. outside shooting trains also 80% Js and vice versa.

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20034.27 in reply to 20034.18
Date: 3/22/2008 8:29:21 AM
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Then I see a guard with 13 JS and 9 JR who only got about 15k salary now.


you are missing something in your theory. rebounding will weight close to 25% in the center formula while JS will only weight about 16% in the formula for guards.


I found a perfect example to prove my point: Albert Diefenbach (3071008), just posted in the transfer ad topic. JS: 10, HD: 10, DR: 11, and only 9,4k salary. A center with 10 IS, 10 ID and 11 RB would have 20k+ salary.


yes it is a perfect example but it does NOT prove your point.

the guards is having an average of 7.8 on his most relevant skills.

JS 10
JR 7
oD 5
HA 10
Dr 11
Pa 4

47/6=7.83

a center from your example will have something close to 10. this explains the difference in the salary

Last edited by Huzzel at 3/22/2008 8:56:52 AM

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20034.28 in reply to 20034.27
Date: 3/22/2008 8:33:32 AM
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I agree with huzzel on his point, why I asked to be shown a guard with 4 equal skills compared to the centers 3 equal skills.

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