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221294.18 in reply to 221294.17
Date: 7/5/2012 1:27:47 PM
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They probaly would not have any World series' even with Jeter still.

Astros never fared well against the Braves the entire 90s. even when they added Randy Johnson and Carlos Beltran at trade deadline... BOTH played phenomenal... they still struggled those years to get past braves.

Jeter would not have been that push that they needed.

Plus, if you want to talk about bad draft decisions in hindsight... take a look at Longoria, and How many other 3rd basemen, not just players, but 3rd basemen, were taken ahead of him.

Ian Stewart, ahead of Longoria and Linecum both...

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221294.19 in reply to 221294.12
Date: 7/5/2012 3:59:04 PM
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The pirates finally stopped trading guys. They've traded away Jason Bay, Nate McClouth, Xavier Nady, and Freddy Sanchez for prospects! Houston is going to be the next pirates. Trading away talent for prospects=19 losing seasons.

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221294.20 in reply to 221294.19
Date: 7/5/2012 7:47:12 PM
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So satrted in 2011, 2030 is when they'll be good again?

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221294.21 in reply to 221294.20
Date: 7/5/2012 7:49:23 PM
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Naw, their young guys will probably get better in 3-4 seasons.

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221294.22 in reply to 221294.21
Date: 7/5/2012 7:52:06 PM
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hmm, maybe 6 losing seasons at most? I alwats dreamed that somehow they (Astros) were able to have enough cash to get 2 key pitchers, that would lead them to a would series in 2025 against the Yankees.

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221294.23 in reply to 221294.22
Date: 7/5/2012 7:54:41 PM
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If the Yankees are still good by then.

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221294.24 in reply to 221294.19
Date: 7/5/2012 8:59:52 PM
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The pirates finally stopped trading guys. They've traded away Jason Bay, Nate McClouth, Xavier Nady, and Freddy Sanchez for prospects! Houston is going to be the next pirates. Trading away talent for prospects=19 losing seasons.


Jason Bay hasn't had a good season since leaving Pittsburgh....

McClouth fell off the world. Xavier Nady is *not* talent. and Freddy Sanchez is a defensive liability and has had health issues. Solid trade.

The only trade that hurt was trading off Jason Bay. But all those trades have worked for the better for the pirates.

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221294.26 in reply to 221294.25
Date: 7/6/2012 3:51:49 AM
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This is what the Pirates got for Sanchez...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=al...

Even if Sanchez was (for us, Giants) only half a year of really good play (including +5.9 UZR, so, roughly, above average defense), I'd say the Giants won the trade.



I would agree. coming to minors at 18... 23-24 still in AA... screams peaked already, or horrible injury. (for pitcher that is)