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From: CrazyEye

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222853.18 in reply to 222853.17
Date: 8/4/2012 9:41:59 AM
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that would float the transfer market at one point of the season, leading to inflated prices while lot of people are waiting then to this point which makes the game very static and punish people who ain't there at free agency.

Also there are free agent who are signed during the regular season afaik in europe, and pretty sure in NBA too. But the most get a contract during the start of a season, till the end of one in the fture so that there are just more during this point of the seasoN(also lot easier to sign through the Cap rules in the NBA)

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222853.19 in reply to 222853.16
Date: 8/4/2012 9:59:25 AM
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oh i know u made it clear, i just dont agree with you. The genreal concept of 'why pay for 3 weeks of salaries for a guy that you cant use in games that make a difference'' isnt strictly 100% true for all teams.
You comment suggests, that in the lull period of the transfer market, (which by my definition is roughly from now until next week or thereabouts, roughly.) ... that at the moment, in that period, nobody buys players unless they are for scrimmages. And i disagree with this. (I know your generalising, i know you dont mean 100% of people dont buy in this time, but i think the number is actually higher than you think).
Here are the types of users who buy during this period.

1) New users, because, well, they just dont know any better, and probably arent going to be playing finals anyways. But lets not count these guys.

2) People who know they are going to be relegated. This could be 8th, 7th or 6th placed teams eg: My league, the guy finishing 6th knows he will lose his relegation, so he is buying his team for next season. He doesnt want to wait until week 1 of the new season, where he has to fight other bidders for players, he wants to secure his team early and hit the ground running of week 1 of new season. They have the cash to spare to pay slightly higher purchase prices for players and are happy to pay salaries of cheaper players because more than likely, they are downgrading in total salary (ie: selling their expensive players, buy cheaper players because the new league wont support them).

3) Non-draft participants for the next season - Users not partaking in the draft, for whatever reason, but want a draftee for the following season, sometimesy look at the end of season because teams are often off-loading their failed 18 year old trainee from that year, or they have decided they dont want him anymore, doesnt fit into long term plans etc. Lull period is a good time buy a partially trained 18 year old, to train up the following year. and so what, $5k salary for a few weeks? is peanuts. In the new season, 95% of draftee's get off-loaded, and its just a free-for all, and good draftee's are hard to come by.... its actually harder, when there is so much choice, and so many people are bidding on the good players. So why not get in early i say.

4) Cashed up teams (not all cashed up teams, just cashed up teams willing to spend more cash)...... So in the lull period, the economics suggest that good players are harder to come across, and even though there are less buyers, Supply is still lower than demand and as such, prices are higher. Cashed up teams are willing to pay a little bit extra for players, AND pay the extra week or two in salaries, in order to secure the player they want.

5) Time-zone disadvantaged buyers - OK so this is a concept which is very odd concept. Due to the time zone differences, being here in Australia i tell u what.. can be very annoying sometimes! The majority of players being sold are from Europe/UsA time zones. which means the sale expiry is, 1am-7am Australia time...(depending on where you are and the time people put them on the market).... for example, of the 8 guys ive bookmarked for buying, 7 of them expiry in that time... ANNOYING! anyways it means that im up for buying guys whenever i can get them, and this may mean spending more dosh, during the lull period, as per item 4 above.

anyways sorry thats a long post. Im not disagreeing that there is a lull period in the transfer market, i just think there are enough numbers of teams who purchase players in this off-season period, (for reasons other than scrimmages) to warrant an extension of the current playoff-cut off time.
id like some stats around this! Currently 7500 players for sale on transfer list. what was it last week?

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222853.20 in reply to 222853.19
Date: 8/4/2012 3:04:37 PM
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Just one remark, no tanking (money saving) team is going fill his rosters with salaries before the season is over (when you actually do not need to pay salaries. Why would you save up all that money to throw it away in those 3 weeks before playoffs.

On a side note we are drifting badly away from the free agent talks. There is a similar suggestion where the deadline etc are discussed, so perhaps we should continue there if interested.

From: tough

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222853.21 in reply to 222853.20
Date: 8/4/2012 4:11:07 PM
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intesting posts here. but When I saved up cash in D4 for 2 seasons I'll boost my roster big time!

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From: Patria

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222853.22 in reply to 222853.18
Date: 8/4/2012 5:15:59 PM
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make the period to buy FA 1 month. and maybe allow users to buy FA under 10k or 20k salary throughout entire year. in case someone needs players to fill out the roster or temporarily replace some player on their team

i think that's a solid idea/suggestion.

From: WFUnDina

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222853.23 in reply to 222853.22
Date: 8/4/2012 7:29:58 PM
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make the period to buy FA 1 month. and maybe allow users to buy FA under 10k or 20k salary throughout entire year. in case someone needs players to fill out the roster or temporarily replace some player on their team

i think that's a solid idea/suggestion.


Oh so make the rule for the higher divisions, but the it still go on for the lower division. Yeah thats fair. More sour grapes.

From: abigfishy

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222853.24 in reply to 222853.12
Date: 8/4/2012 9:32:35 PM
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dude if u need a laugh read ur own post

it will kill the transfer list completly? right? so there will be no transfers for the next 2 weeks?

lol

in case of long injury u cannot replace? u dont have backups? u dont have players that can play more than 1 pos? u never had injuries during the playoffs

lmao

dropping 2 levels of gs will stop this? u buy a prof guy on thrus, he drops 2res, u train gs & he is back 2 prof & this will stop day trading?

roflmfao

+1 for this post it was the funniest thing i have read for ages

From: abigfishy

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222853.25 in reply to 222853.16
Date: 8/4/2012 9:38:43 PM
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You kind of miss the point of paying salaries vs not paying salaries.
I think I made it clear, that noone will buy players just to play them in scrimmages.


more hilarity dude u really crack me up

u already said as every1 knows that the prices drop a bit after the deadline (we shall see how much this season with prices already so low) but 1/4 of teams (every 5th & 8th team) are already paying no salaries so if they can get a guy at a cheap price it is a perfect time

lots more wont be paying salaries next week!

so they WILL be buying guys just for scrimmages THIS SEASON so they have those guys ready for next season

its really not hard 2 understand

From: Patria

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222853.26 in reply to 222853.23
Date: 8/4/2012 10:11:56 PM
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fine, the idea's not perfect. If you could help it to evolve instead to spit on it, the idea could be great.

The limit could be up to 40k for top division, 30k for 2.division, 20k for 3.division.... you see the point. I'm just throwing these numbers. Could be more up and down, but the general idea IS good.

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222853.27 in reply to 222853.20
Date: 8/5/2012 12:26:20 AM
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yep i was thinking that after id posted! hahha.
ill summarise and post something there.
i wish real life conversations and meetings could be moderated like that.... the amount of times i walk into a meeting at work, and people end up discussing something totally different...

maybe i should start conducting all work meetings in a BB forum page? hmmm.

From: Kukoc

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222853.28 in reply to 222853.25
Date: 8/5/2012 3:39:18 AM
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I'm glad you are amused:)

so there will be no transfers for the next 2 weeks?
Which part of paying salaries vs not paying salaries did you not understand?

but 1/4 of teams (every 5th & 8th team) are already paying no salaries
I said that TL dies if we move it 3 more weeks into the season. There will be no teams that do not have to pay salaries for those 3 extra weeks. Why spend money on salaries, when you can only use those guys in scrimmages. The salary change was introduced to not make the offseason a two week ghost town.

dropping 2 levels of gs will stop this? u buy a prof guy on thrus, he drops 2res, u train gs & he is back 2 prof & this will stop day trading?
As a experienced manager you should know that GS training does not guarantee you even 1 level GS increase. It makes me wonder have you trained GS more than once?
The "trade/playoff" deadline is here, I had to lower a bunch of skills on my saved searches to finally get a list of 20 players. When teams were paying salaries in offseason, there were actually more players on TL, everyone was trying to get rid of them. Just not many teams were willing to add anything to their roster. A large supply with small demand.
I don't know where your "glich" is but it's either reading or understanding...

I must applaud BB's for the FA change (and the salary adjustment every season), great way to get this games economy near equilibrium.

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