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What defense do you recommend against Princeton?

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280157.18 in reply to 280157.17
Date: 6/19/2016 9:14:44 PM
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Yes. My team is a "very poor team".

Hrudey's offenses of choice if you look are Princeton and motion. He opted not to do that as I had correctly GDP'd several people (not bots) in a row.

No it is not 1-3-1 but it still a "zone" defense and it still brings merit to my point of Shotblocking. Between here and the NBA finals thread you seem to be quite agitated and worked yourself into quite the tizzy. I suppose I should either stop interacting with you until you have regained composure.

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280157.20 in reply to 280157.19
Date: 6/19/2016 10:39:58 PM
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Poor team on the floor. Wasn't talking about team in general, but definitely the team on the floor. During the cup few teams play their best for 3 games, and by this time in the season those that do are a poor team simply for lack of GS.

I know who you are from your name anyway, and no you never really proved anything with your team(s) so anyone following should be warned that your advice is 100% unqualified fantasy. You are not a successful manager.



from my name?

for the love of god EVERYONE. I am not Ramquizbo.

More Wolph nonsense about something he makes up in his head and then passes off as truth.

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Last edited by RamenQueen at 6/21/2016 1:28:35 AM

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280157.21 in reply to 280157.16
Date: 6/22/2016 10:58:30 AM
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I guess I am not suppose to ask if you ever played this game before your current team... Maybe this will be deleted.

I just think it would be good to see the performance of your teams when someone gives advice. Based on your current team it would look like you know nothing of BB, but I get the feeling you played before, quit, and came back...

Or maybe you really are new?

I guess this will be deleted. I just don't think SB is important outside C in 1-3-1 or that much against Princeton.


You may look at my recent cup game vs GM-Hrudey's team
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I watched that game, as you might recall, and inviting people to look at it without warning them that they may feel the compelling urge to stab their own eyeballs out is a touch irresponsible. A game where it took the late minute intentional foul to have the winner break 40 points is a sick and twisted way to spend an evening.

In terms of the overall conversation, SB and OD at every position is good to have vs. any offense, in my opinion, except in the scenario where a highly aggressive player has just enough of one or the other to decide that he has a chance of getting a steal/block and goes ahead and gets ejected in the third quarter and turns a game that was won into a loss and torpedoes promotion, not that I'm bitter or anything.

The usual problem with zones against outside offenses is that most teams end up having a weak point in their zone. It sometimes still works out if they do (see my mini-rant about the super defensive day from an SF earlier), and more often it doesn't. If you have the skills on your players to make sure there's not a weak spot outside, the zone is going to be an improvement because you get the boost to the team OD from the zone, which I still believe reduces the shooting percentage of "open" shots.

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280157.24 in reply to 280157.4
Date: 6/23/2016 4:23:05 PM
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A zone is there to apply pressure on a given area. I'd honestly suggest using it when the team using it has A) the defense in the PG, SG, SF, and honestly the Pf position are all very sound and B) when there is a deficiency in the opponents players in the flow of their scheme. I think it does more work when a team is reliant on one or two mediocre distributors and 1 single passing threat. I'm not sure that my theory on it would lead me to 3-2 into a princeton, I think i'd be more likely to man to man or even look at rebounding to see if i could control rebounding.


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280157.26 in reply to 280157.25
Date: 6/23/2016 8:14:59 PM
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Doesn't surprise me. Lots of props to you and your 3-2 paving the way for quite a few American owners on the offsite considering it more often, including efforts on the u21 and nt front. Presumably you've also shown many nationals in your home country the same promise of a 3-2.

Nothing about your run surprises me. You 3-2'd most teams who could only keep their Assist rations on the PG's in a good spot. Looking back at some of the teams on 'relatively' equal terms, looks like you had silly OD ratings (high 11 through low 14's mostly). You also surmised by the looks of things that a 3-2 wouldn't work against Spartak_Plovdiv.

Given what i've tested, most teams prefer not to train passing as high as some other skills. Most tend to prefer OD > PA > JR (not Hrudey though). Because of this, most teams at best have 1 guy responsible for flow, and it means a 3-2 can likely squeeze the rest into low assists higher turnovers, and most importantly more contested shots than they would've had against a man to man defense.

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280157.27 in reply to 280157.25
Date: 6/24/2016 2:58:31 AM
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I ended up among the top 32 teams in B3 back in S27 using only the 3-2 zone against any type of offense.

Bad idea.

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