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It can be done. You just don't use real big men, height only matter in training not in actual games. From the game guide in quote.

I'm kind of surprised it never has been done with all training changes that have been made. I reading and height in training only matter to do so. Sound like a cost to do more than anything else

Last edited by john otters at 9/3/2019 7:34:40 PM

The market is overvalued and under used . there's need to be some better guidelines involved. I don't. Know the right answer to that? But you to have been here a while. Vate to explain why


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But outside shooting team is possible, but you won't find it on the market in talent which is where the problem lye.

Last edited by john otters at 9/4/2019 11:54:50 AM

Thank you for the kind reply?.. I would like to ask do you think the taxes already in place do a good job of steering the game in the best direction.

If "look inside" is the issue why not lower the use of it. Has this ever been discussed. Has the game ever had or offered tactic specific tourneyments? The reason I asked this is because its good way to learn about tactics from well known long term users like yourself. It also keep the forum flowing with content driven discussion.

Auto bid sounds ok. But it still can be outbidded by live user. Also it kind of unfair in a sense mass money in involved. The most money will win bid every time. Unless there's a set reserve.a

Thank you for the kind reply. Last question if its ok?

Have you ever created a outside shooting player or team. If so ,would it be ok to see the skills needed , exact cost ? It doesn't have to be your exact owned player.

Last edited by john otters at 9/5/2019 12:05:47 AM

OUtside tactics and players require an overall team build of stats to make flow work.

That's unproven. I have seen no evidence that better flow = better outside shooting. The evidence is there for inside tactics but not for outside ones and that may actually be part of the problem.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/5/2019 4:33:58 AM

What I would like to see is someone trying to 'game' the GE, trying something unconventional. There are essentially 2 things you can try as an outside oriented team:
1) No passing 1 to 3
2) No DR

Now, no. 2) is nigh impossible at top level, because the players won't have enough outside skills if DR/HA are low (it would require a significant change in training). No.1 is an interesting proposition and could be tested even in lower leagues. Since what we know is that guarded/unguarded outside shots seem to have similar percentages it's possible that the outcome of such an experiment would be:
- 1-3 will take an even higher proportion of shots and big men will pass more
- 1-3 may take a higher proportion of 3s and/or drives depending on their skills
- No change or marginal change to the FG%

This could be a team with a lower number of jump shots, low assist numbers and more 3s and drives. Almost all jump shots and 3s would be contested, but if it's true that guarded/unguarded shots have a similar FG% why would you care? And even if the probability is low, guarded shots have at least a chance of leading to FTs. This seems a smarter experiment than trying to get the big men to take more outside shots and should be salary efficient allowing for SB for example. I'd definitely try this if I didn't have training in the way.

Of course one could go 2) with big men in inside oriented teams, but I already know what happens in that case if you have good PA throughout: the player will take a lot more dunks and inside shots than average and cut the layups, which means he may even benefit from having no DR, as he'd be more efficient. I started a 80 TSP player for several seasons in D1 and he had 1 HA and 1 DR.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/5/2019 10:38:57 AM