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164600.181 in reply to 164600.180
Date: 12/9/2010 1:21:31 PM
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It would be better if players like Silves had wages that allowed people to really want them on a long term basis. This way lots of people would want them, and then they would be sold for 10kk, and not for 1kk, and kept for a long time by the team who bought them. Nevertheless, it seems it won't ever happen.
Making teams pay in advance player's wages won't change anything, it will only undervalue even more those 300k-500k players in order to compensate the extra money spent on wages.
The best solution for B3 would be to freeze rosters. Teams would be allowed to play with the same players that started the competition.


Last edited by LA-Bernspin at 12/9/2010 1:24:48 PM

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164600.182 in reply to 164600.181
Date: 12/9/2010 1:26:36 PM
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Team in B3 have different needs outside of B3. Wouldn't work (or it wouldn't be fair).

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164600.183 in reply to 164600.182
Date: 12/9/2010 1:34:08 PM
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the best solution would be stopping creating this crappy players... or buy them and fire them

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164600.184 in reply to 164600.183
Date: 12/9/2010 1:40:07 PM
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You cannot fire player on NT rosters. And many of those monster will be stuck there for a long time (in many cases till another monster will push them out one day).

I agree, they shouldn't be created at all, but if NT managers are ok with monsters with game shape 5 or 6 due to constatnt switching teams and overpalying, they probably think they are still useful for them, so they won't die out in foreseeable future.

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164600.185 in reply to 164600.182
Date: 12/9/2010 1:59:16 PM
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I mean: rosters would be frozen only for B3. If a team bought another player he could be used on the league or cup, but not on B3. Like buying a player during league playoffs (you can keep him but can't play him on playoffs).

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164600.186 in reply to 164600.185
Date: 12/9/2010 2:36:50 PM
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I mean: rosters would be frozen only for B3. If a team bought another player he could be used on the league or cup, but not on B3. Like buying a player during league playoffs (you can keep him but can't play him on playoffs).

You either didn't get my point (people don't need to have B3 finals teams at the start of the season except maybe for B3) or you suggest there should be two different rosters, one "real" for league, cup, sc (and PL) and one for B3 and you would pay for that frozen B3 squad only for the real one. Which surely won'tbe implemented for many reasons.

You have to bne able to sell players wheneever you want. I'm not sure what you are suggesting, let jsut say TEAM X from middle size country has monster A on its roster at the start of B3. That team doesn't need him for league games, it can win without him. So
a) Monster A is frozen on roster and team has to pay from him till he is knoicked off B3
b) Monster A is frozen on roster for B3, paid and can be sold meaning he is no longer on that B3 roster (except when re-aqcuired) nor league roster
c) Monster A is frozen on roster for B3, not paid, unless he is still part of that team league roster and when sold he just ceases to be on league roster and is still on B3 roster
d) Monster A is frozen on roster for B3 and acts normally like on league roster till sold, then he is not eligible for B3 nor league roster anymore that season

None of these options is viable. The problem with frozen roster is overpowered teams at the beginning of the season not underpowered. Since domestic competition is not the same for everyone, frozen teams are not fair enough for everyone.

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164600.187 in reply to 164600.186
Date: 12/9/2010 2:44:44 PM
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No, I suggest that a team should play B3 with no more than the same players that started the competition. If you want to sell a player after B3 starts, that's OK. If you want to buy a player after B3 starts, that's also OK, but that player won't be allowed to play on B3, being allowed to play league and cup games normally.

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164600.188 in reply to 164600.187
Date: 12/9/2010 2:48:22 PM
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Not going to work. you can't force teams overpay like that without a reason. Some can use that players for some it is a unnecessary overkill. Unfair solution. It may actually happen Tukums etc. would rotate monster before first round instead of fthe final one making those uneligible for anyone else. Still monster loading lottery.

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164600.189 in reply to 164600.188
Date: 12/9/2010 2:58:27 PM
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My suggestion would boost teams who think in a long-term basis instead of teams that focused on very short-term basis strategies that prevailed this season. You know, a similar solution already exists: there is a deadline to buy players eligible for playoffs. Want to win your league? Build a team that can win the POs before they take place. Want to win B3? Build during the pre-season a team that could make you to the title.

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164600.190 in reply to 164600.189
Date: 12/9/2010 4:13:59 PM
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It seems very strict have it from the beginning of the B3 challenge. In that case might be most effective strategy to have 3-5 players in the age around 24 and train them, so they will get better by the time, as your team performance. Well, it doesnt look like that there would be many options, and what about that somebody would change mind after several rounds if wasnt really clever to have certain players in his team for competition like B3. I would prefer such deadline 1-2 months at most.

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164600.191 in reply to 164600.190
Date: 12/9/2010 6:29:49 PM
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It seems very strict have it from the beginning of the B3 challenge. In that case might be most effective strategy to have 3-5 players in the age around 24 and train them, so they will get better by the time, as your team performance. Well, it doesnt look like that there would be many options, and what about that somebody would change mind after several rounds if wasnt really clever to have certain players in his team for competition like B3. I would prefer such deadline 1-2 months at most.


Well, B3 should be a competition for pros. If you wanted to win it you should be able to plan in advance. But, you know, it's just my POV. Maybe I'm wrong and B3 should be a competition for those who only think at the next match. And if B3 turns into a "next match competition" be sure that Cups will be next. In fact, if you notice that Silves, after B3 finals, has already been bought by a team, has played 1 cup match and has been put on transfer list you realize that Cups have already been infected by the "rent-a-player" phenomenon.

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