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From: zyler

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Date: 8/6/2011 3:20:41 AM
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i get the point your trying to make , and no one in here has actually read your post or taken any of it in .

you are correct that a full pop on a high end will cost you 21k + , and your point that over the course of 7+ seasons of training a player may get one or 2 of these pops is plauseable so i do agree that it cause some issues to some very unlucky players.

i read a post around here somewhere where a manager much less lazy then me worked out the % of this happening and from memory it was extremely small.

so while i understand what your saying i personally think unless ur insanely unlucky its prob no going to effect you too highly.


im still waiting for people to see the effect this will have on national team n under 21 teams.

From: Astragoth

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Date: 8/6/2011 3:33:27 AM
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thanks man for reading my post and for trying to understand what i am saying.

this is how people should respond to other peoples post.

you might be right and you might get unlucky and get 2 pops. or perhaps you only get 1. we do not know yet. (in my example)

some other people stated and i can feel their pain, that they have been training players out off position for certain reasons. to get a benefit over other teams. I can see that point too. I do have to say though that the full extent off cross training wont be fully visable until players get trained from now onwards a full 6-7-8 seasons and than to compare the extra "random" pops with what they would have gotten in the old system. So it might all be a storm in a glass water

For me the coolest part off this game always was that you can create unique players and that you could decide yourself how to train your players. in a certain extent, they have simplified the process and you have less hand in how to train and create your own players. but like i said, we have to wait and see what the full extent will be.

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192339.183 in reply to 192339.178
Date: 8/6/2011 4:41:51 AM
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Actually, I did read what you wrote and what the poster after you wrote (which explained how getting two FULL pops in reb through cross-training was not only not easy but practically impossible) and then read your reply to him in which you deigned it unnecessary to listen to him because he has no players making over 30k/wk. I read all of that and thought I might try to explain how you didn't actually experience a FULL pop in reb but a tiny little bump in sub-level and how little cross-training will actually affect your players' salaries. You seem intent, however, on believing that cross-training will only occur in rebounding for your SG and that his salary will explode into unwanted figures. I disagree with this based on the mathematics presented by LA-elduderino and by my own scribblings on a napkin to figure out what this change might mean financially when the news came out.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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192339.184 in reply to 192339.158
Date: 8/6/2011 5:05:45 AM
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over 7 or 8 seasons off training, getting 2 pops on a high end SG in total, which I do expect to be quite normal with cross training, have a look what the difference is for salary with either level 7 or 9 rebounding for a shooting guard. you can use a salary calculator to do so.

from your response you dont seem to know 2 more rebounding on a high end SG makes quite a bit salary difference, I strongly suggest to play around with the calculator. do you want a link as well?


If cross training were not there, that 2 extra pops would have gone to JS or JR or some similar skills, which would give that shooting guard very much higher salary than if that 2 extra pops were given to rebounding.

I think the best thing we could do this wait for this season to finish and see the impact of cross training on salary. :)

From: Tim2pin

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Date: 8/12/2011 5:44:25 AM
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OD 2 position PG/SG - ID (1 to 2)

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192339.186 in reply to 192339.1
Date: 8/12/2011 1:13:01 PM
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I got a dumb pop.... (im happy about it though.)

I trained passing for PG, and I got a driving pop. They dont have much in common.

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Date: 8/12/2011 1:39:39 PM
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But Passing trains driving.

From: Densler
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192339.188 in reply to 192339.187
Date: 8/12/2011 1:58:12 PM
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Passing for PG

Denis Pereira ↑popped↑ in Passing from X to Y .
Denis Pereira ↑popped↑ in Inside Shot from A to B.

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192339.189 in reply to 192339.188
Date: 8/14/2011 4:13:18 PM
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Daniel Tulbure ↑popped↑ in Rebounding from .
Daniel Tulbure ↑popped↑ in Free Throw from .

Ben Siggaard ↑popped↑ in Jump Shot from .
Ben Siggaard ↑popped↑ in Rebounding from .

Last edited by Boston Celts at 8/14/2011 4:14:29 PM

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192339.190 in reply to 192339.189
Date: 8/14/2011 7:48:17 PM
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Stamina training = C popped in Outside Defense

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