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121483.182 in reply to 121483.180
Date: 11/8/2011 1:55:39 PM
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its a trap i think a lot of big trainers fall into (when they even care).
they think they will change to outside training but never do (hard when they have a flow of centres), or are just happy to sell them on and they arent bought by outside trainers because their salaries are too high to play them as reserve while they are trained (not to mention out of position in the cup/scrimmages).

i have been recommending to trainers of monoskilled centres to plan ahead for outside training before their salaries grow too much, but i get the feeling they will only meet the same end :<

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Date: 11/8/2011 4:42:18 PM
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I understand why some trainers avoid the secondaries on 210+cm players, it really takes a ridiculous amount of time.

I'm really looking forward to how Ceska Republic NT does this season at worlds. It will a say a lot for primaries vs secondaries, and HCA.

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Date: 11/8/2011 4:45:28 PM
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HCA is HUGE in buzzerbeater...

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Date: 11/8/2011 5:43:33 PM
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ive noticed a manager advertising his new draftee as a future NT player blah blah blah - needless to say noone should believe what a manager claims until you can check them with the NT staff!

I contacted the manager in question a few days ago asking him to get in touch if he wants to train him (as he will be a ridiculous project) or otherwise list him at a sensible price (which he is not at right now).

needless to say i havent received a response, but instead have noticed his exaggerated advert!
Brilliant.


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Date: 11/9/2011 1:11:20 PM
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it is a must we keep players like this trained.

with good OD and some other guard training I am sure he will make it into U21 and has potential to make NT

Kevin Flynn (21068846)
Starting Price: $ 300 000
Auction ends: 11/11/2011 22:07:36
Owner: Evergreen Terraceists


Weekly salary: $ 4 880
Age: 19
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: strong
Driving: respectable Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: awful Free Throw: inept

Experience: atrocious

From: Fluff

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121483.188 in reply to 121483.187
Date: 11/9/2011 1:54:21 PM
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very interesting to see what he goes for. could be living evidence of the premium you pay for 18 year old vs 19 year old.
looks like he must have got about 8 pops last season, plus two more last friday. hopefully he'll play a full game in the cup this week :)

1.5m as an 18 year old was crazy or is it just me? will he go for over 2m this time?

From: Astragoth

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Date: 11/9/2011 2:00:58 PM
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nope. i very much doubt he will go for more than 1.5 million...

if the elastic effect works as I experienced myself and as other have stated, than he should pop in the other guard skills fast too...

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121483.190 in reply to 121483.187
Date: 11/9/2011 2:38:36 PM
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1,5M was crazy due to the terrible secondaries. But still, an 18 year old HOF with respectable in all outside skills is very expensive. An 18 year old HOF with Average in all outside skills would still be very expensive i believe. 6 * Average is probably what you should compare him with. 11 pops from draft til now is not perfect, but it´s not bad at all.

If you´re a believer in elastic effect I guess you´d pay extra. Paying millions for a player who´ll probably never be worth more than 2 million no matter what training scheme you have in mind is never a good idea....

You should hope for a foreign team with a training-motivated coach to pick him up, and save your NT-loyal coaches for other players that have more secondaries. Those are the players that would be a dissaster to lose to a possible future inactive team.

Maybe this player will be a asset for your NT in the future, but I have to think that Guards without OD and IS will not be key players on NT-level in 8-9 seasons..

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Date: 11/9/2011 3:20:13 PM
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Maybe this player will be a asset for your NT in the future, but I have to think that Guards without OD and IS will not be key players on NT-level in 8-9 seasons..


yes ideally we will will have in 8-9 seasons time world class players like top countries have right now, but we are a small community in a non Basketball minded country and we have done super when we ever end up in the top 30 in the world

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Date: 11/9/2011 5:19:02 PM
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managers with elastic for brains believe the elastic effect as a net positive thing!

Rosen makes a good point - we only have so many good loyal inside and outside trainers. picking their transfer targets should be done wisely to get the best possible players in the long run.

I wish i hadnt bought my player Ahearne (no offense mate, keep up the good work!) as only two weeks later two better players got bot released - and they were better despite having missed 4 weeks training!

just to clarify - for guards is there a consensus amongst managers that starting high in any or all of IS, ID, and SB are good value for money things to have(salary wise) in the long run, where as rebounding tends not to be?

i know for NT the higher them all the better, but at the end of the day the training team needs to jusify their salary...

And for bigs, are there any guard skills that arent value for money? I guess JS and JR can add to salaries and while all players benefit from JS, i guess there is a fairly low JR limit...especially for a centre?

interested in views here!


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