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From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 3:42:38 AM
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Just a quick look at last stats of my best player and shotblocker (Ran Bass, 10 on SB) finds that he had made in average 1.2 blocks per game. I wish he had 3-4 on SB and his salary was less then 100K and not to pay 100K weekly for 1 extra possession. I't quiet easy to check the stats of the players with 14-15 SB, but I believe that it would not show a huge rise (maybe 2-2/5 blocks/game). Compared to ID and Rebs, SB is almost worthless IMO.

From: rubbercube

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Date: 6/4/2012 5:33:52 AM
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But in most cases you can take one level out of ID or IS or RB and replace it with two or three SB levels, keeping the salary constant (so it's clearly the cheapest inside skill). When it comes to those 2-3 extra possessions per game that you can get by doing that, many believe that also the threat of blocking is a major factor of a team's inside defence. However, there's no evidence for that (at least that I'd know of), so it will for now stay as speculation.
rubbercube

Last edited by rubbercube at 6/4/2012 5:34:49 AM

From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 6:43:11 AM
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2 SB levels do not lead to 2-3 extra possessions for sure. Maybe 0.2-0.3, and I'm skeptical even about that. On the contrary, 1 level of primary skills may be converted to those 2-3 possessions. On the other hand, your guess is quiet interesting' something I have not been thinking about. But during 12 seasons in the game I did not see a major difference in defense caused by a low SB level. So let's leave it as a speculation

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Date: 6/4/2012 7:05:54 AM
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at least i am going to train Sb more right now, and think the "worthless" aspect could be also said about ID.

I amde it to the B3 final with C with just 13/12 ID(and even lower blocking), with noticeable playtime.

And when we see that a C take around 10-15 where he converts 60% of it usually, 2 blocks you can get even with mediocore(on my level this mean 8-9 not 5) blocking ain't that bad + the same amount of shot where they affect the shots without blocking it.

From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 8:43:19 AM
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B3 final with 12/13 ID? You probably had a plenty of guards and big men with 20 on Reb and IS

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Date: 6/4/2012 9:58:12 AM
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But in most cases you can take one level out of ID or IS or RB and replace it with two or three SB levels, keeping the salary constant (so it's clearly the cheapest inside skill). When it comes to those 2-3 extra possessions per game that you can get by doing that, many believe that also the threat of blocking is a major factor of a team's inside defence. However, there's no evidence for that (at least that I'd know of), so it will for now stay as speculation.
rubbercube


People aren't willing to put in the effort to train passing and handling for the most part for their big men and they're frittering away quite a few possessions indeed with needless turnovers. I did a quick TL search for 15 ID, there are 312 players - and only 31 with handling and passing at even 6, and a mere 3 with passing and handling at 8 (but 81! with passing handling at 3 or less).

If people aren't willing to change their behavior when the evidence of lost possessions is right there in their faces and in their three-skill tree's stat line, there's no reason at all they're going to change for something that isn't spoon fed to them.


From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/4/2012 10:20:26 AM
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i concentrate more on reb that right, even when i didn't dominate the opposition there. I had good guards but not IS guards, but multiskilled.

From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 11:39:09 AM
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Are you sure about that or just an assumption?

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/4/2012 11:41:53 AM
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Are you sure about that or just an assumption?


sure about it, BB-Charles said it that it affect other shot and decreases the prohability that there go in "a lot".

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