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From: LaCross

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Date: 6/2/2012 5:01:55 PM
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Exactly. That was my point. We can fight tanking with logic.

A team forfeits, fans get furious. Will they show up to the next game? No! Will they ask for their money back? Yes.

Only one forfeit is enough to besmirch a team's whole season.

Here's what I would do about the forfeits?

A home team does it -- no income from tickets sold, attendance drops drastically in the future.

A visiting team does it -- they have to refund the home team's fans from their own pocket. Attendance drops.

From: tough

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Date: 6/2/2012 5:17:58 PM
Mountain Eagles
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I would like a fine like this too;
D5; 75k fine
D4; 100k fine
D3; 150k fine
D2; 200k fine
D1; 300k fine

That'll hit em hard where it hurts.

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From: E.B.W.
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Date: 6/2/2012 6:13:43 PM
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Tankers never win and Winners never tank.

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
From: Axis123

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Date: 6/2/2012 6:23:32 PM
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I'm glad you agree. It only makes sense.

+1 ball for you, my friend.

From: Axis123

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Date: 6/2/2012 6:24:02 PM
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Tell that to the people who watch managers tank for seasons and then win it all several times over.

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Date: 6/2/2012 7:37:37 PM
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Tanking and the whole concept of trying to finish fifth instead of fourth are both problems, to be sure, but those are symptoms rather than problems unto themselves. If it truly is better to tank than to compete honestly, and if it is better to finish fifth than fourth or even third, the answer is not going to lie in punishing those who tank or who finish fifth, nor necessarily just giving rewards to those displaying preferred behavior. What needs to be fixed is the underlying economy itself, and while actions affecting tanking may well improve the game, more focus needs to be dedicated to finding the real root of the problem and coming up with real and effective solutions to that.

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Date: 6/2/2012 8:55:44 PM
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The fan survey is an issue.

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Date: 6/3/2012 4:32:24 AM
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The fan survey is an issue.


But if you punish teams that loses, you would also punish teams that want to fight, have relatively high salaries and still finish last with record for example 7-15. What about teams that can't actually afford high levels of doctors (for example me) and have relatively have high salaries and constantly have lots of injuries and loses because of that. Punishing forfeits maybe smart at first glance, but I've seen teams that uses forfeits in the second finals game so they don't get injuries in the third, so it's a good strategy not tanking. What you are proposing about punishing teams because they are losing, I think will only make a lot of unnecessary constrains on other teams, that don't make profit from losing.

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Date: 6/3/2012 4:45:00 AM
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In real life forfeit is punished financially. It happens mostly when teams don't pay salaries to their players and they go on a strike by not playing; then the organization who holds the league penalizes them. It doesn't matter if they forfeited home or away game.

So I'd like to see a fine for going 0-25. Smaller fine for lower leagues and big one for higher leagues, maybe in the form of TV contract for one week.

From: FenXas
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Date: 6/3/2012 4:47:12 AM
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As I see we need forget about tanking and do think about other improvements

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