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From: Stauder

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204735.184 in reply to 204735.177
Date: 4/6/2012 12:28:05 AM
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So you want to use a 5 pt. home win to sling some mud?

As a Thunder fan I look at the last time they played the Lakers and still want them in the postseason hands down. Kobe should give the ball to Bynum and Gasol almost every trip and play inside out, but he tries to shoot too much.

Kobe's shooting percentage is the 2nd lowest of his career this season. Not a good sign when he is shooting it as much as he is.

As for that post? Are the lakers playing better right at this moment? Probably. When I made that post Billups was not hurt and the Clippers have not been the same without his defense, leadership, and big shot ability. You can't deny that. As for the Bynum comment...I will fully take that one on the chin. Bynum has played great when he isn't shooting 3's and when Kobe actually gives him the ball. Jordan has not been close to him this season, admittedly.

Also everything I posted was present tense...meaning as the teams were currently constructed. I think the Billups subtraction and the Sessions addition has definitely affected things. I can admit right this moment that the Lakers are better by a little bit. The standings reflect it, the play (most of the time) reflects it.

As for saying the Clippers would get better as the year went on...who knows if that would be the case with Billups or not. It hasn't been the case so far without him, but they have won 6 of 7. Other than that, what prognostications did I make? It was an assessment of current teams in present tense. The Bynum/Jordan advantage was understated but that's not a prognostication.

So do you think your Lakers have a shot? Surely you can see Kobe's trying to do too much and that they don't have the ability to hang with the Thunder, right?

Last edited by Stauder at 4/6/2012 12:29:59 AM

From: Hoosier

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Date: 4/6/2012 2:10:15 AM
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What the hell are you babbling about? Of course since I have been right this entire forum about EVERYTHING I am going to give you some crap. The fact that my original argument was your over valuing of Clippers and how you were blinded by their short comings because of a couple flashy dunks. Chauncey Billips loss wasn't going to change much. Sorry, he got off to a good start but he is 37 years old. And honestly was going to fade or get hurt.

When did I say the Lakers were going to win it all? I said the Thunder have been my choice since pre-season. And a road loss to the Heat by only three points when Durant had 9 TOs and Westbrook shot crappy while Lebron played out of his mind isn't changing that. I don't let one win or one losing streak or a fast start effect my view of things.

What I did say was that if anyone upsets the Thunder, I do believe the Lakers have the best chance. Because of their vast playoff experience and the advantage they have inside. Even though the Spurs have taken 2 or 3 from the Thunder I don't think they can beat them in the playoffs. The Spurs are a deep team built for the regular season. Not for the playoffs when teams shorten their bench.

And yes Kobe shooting percentage is down but so what? Sure he has driven me nuts some games. And everything you have cited about the Lakers offense I have posted in here 4 times before. Glad you finally caught up. Kobe has 5 titles, he will be more than fine come the post season. Not worried about it. But Sessions has made a huge differences in their offense, which I wrote about at length would happen if they brought in someone for Fish. Another reason I remained confident in the Lakers were the better team, they ultimately will make the right personnel decions. And the Clippers bring in players like Nick Young who does nothing to help them.

But it has to worry you a bit considering the Thunder have no real knowledge how to win in the playoffs. Experience is a huge deal and only Perkins and Fish have any on the Thunder. And they won't be shooting the ball more than 5 or 6 times combined. You can't say you have any real knowledge that they will rise to the occasion when they never have before.

But yes you are correct your post had everything to do with what was going on at that time. Thank you for making my point that you have been too caught up in the moment and struggle to see the bigger picture on this topic.

Last edited by Hoosier at 4/6/2012 2:28:59 AM

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204735.186 in reply to 204735.185
Date: 4/6/2012 2:26:24 PM
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And the war is on. I love standing back and watching you guy waste time LOL

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204735.187 in reply to 204735.186
Date: 4/6/2012 11:04:23 PM
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Stauder and I don't have wars. We just really enjoy each others opinion. However its my opinion you should spend more time reading how to get out of D5 and figuring out this complex game and less time reading about the NBA. Just a thought.

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204735.188 in reply to 204735.187
Date: 4/7/2012 9:34:19 AM
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Ok got it, But the plain and simple truth is that the Thunder are better than the Lakers and the Clippers, and the Lakers and the Clipppers are a tossup.As far as using my status in this game as a measuring stick, thats ridiculous its just a game!!! nothing more, and believe it or not Obama doesn't play this game and guess what he's the president. Also I joined the beginning of this season and am in the playoffs with and up-and coming hall-of-famer 19yr old. But I'm still lying prostrate to you almighty D 3ers,I your humble servant is done with his rant now, please forgive him my Majesty.

From: a-o
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204735.189 in reply to 204735.188
Date: 4/7/2012 4:11:36 PM
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Fun to see the Clippers relevant again. While they may not definitively be the best team in LA, great to see they're in the discussion though. Last time they've been relevant or in the discussion for best team in LA, might've been that one playoff run with Brand and Cassell.

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204735.190 in reply to 204735.188
Date: 4/7/2012 5:12:24 PM
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Apology accepted.