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Shotblocking: Good or Bad?

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From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 8:43:19 AM
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B3 final with 12/13 ID? You probably had a plenty of guards and big men with 20 on Reb and IS

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Date: 6/4/2012 9:58:12 AM
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But in most cases you can take one level out of ID or IS or RB and replace it with two or three SB levels, keeping the salary constant (so it's clearly the cheapest inside skill). When it comes to those 2-3 extra possessions per game that you can get by doing that, many believe that also the threat of blocking is a major factor of a team's inside defence. However, there's no evidence for that (at least that I'd know of), so it will for now stay as speculation.
rubbercube


People aren't willing to put in the effort to train passing and handling for the most part for their big men and they're frittering away quite a few possessions indeed with needless turnovers. I did a quick TL search for 15 ID, there are 312 players - and only 31 with handling and passing at even 6, and a mere 3 with passing and handling at 8 (but 81! with passing handling at 3 or less).

If people aren't willing to change their behavior when the evidence of lost possessions is right there in their faces and in their three-skill tree's stat line, there's no reason at all they're going to change for something that isn't spoon fed to them.


From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/4/2012 10:20:26 AM
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i concentrate more on reb that right, even when i didn't dominate the opposition there. I had good guards but not IS guards, but multiskilled.

From: ig

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Date: 6/4/2012 11:39:09 AM
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Are you sure about that or just an assumption?

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/4/2012 11:41:53 AM
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Are you sure about that or just an assumption?


sure about it, BB-Charles said it that it affect other shot and decreases the prohability that there go in "a lot".

From: Coach_D

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Date: 6/4/2012 11:44:27 AM
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Why you want perimeter players with OD 18+ and they only record 1-2 stl/game isn't this same ?

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Date: 6/4/2012 12:00:52 PM
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People aren't willing to put in the effort to train passing and handling for the most part for their big men and they're frittering away quite a few possessions indeed with needless turnovers. I did a quick TL search for 15 ID, there are 312 players - and only 31 with handling and passing at even 6, and a mere 3 with passing and handling at 8 (but 81! with passing handling at 3 or less).

If people aren't willing to change their behavior when the evidence of lost possessions is right there in their faces and in their three-skill tree's stat line, there's no reason at all they're going to change for something that isn't spoon fed to them.


True. That's the situation with most managers. But I personally try to have an advantage against those "most people" by using SB myself and slowly moving the idea of SB to my country's national teams too.
rubbercube

From: LBJisaCancer

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Date: 6/4/2012 2:33:52 PM
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The problem of SB is that it boosts the salary of big men for almost no profit. In fact, the number of blocks made by a player hardly exceeds 2 per game. The difference in the salary might be twice bigger, and in the higher levels it can be measured by $100K and even more. A way too much to pay for maximum 2 extra possessions in the game. So I'm absolutely among those who claim that SB should never be trained, and furthermore I personally prefer that it should not pop at all during ID training.


Ok, 2 blocks per game... How many shots are missed, but not blocked?
What's the improvement to the Opp field goal % allowed?

If players were hitting 60% on guy, but now its 35% and he gets 2 blocks per game... that translates to a lot more than 2 possessions per game.

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