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119316.19 in reply to 119316.11
Date: 11/27/2009 1:22:57 AM
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Let's say in a base offense you can put up respectable in outside and inside scoring. If you go to an inside offense, this brings your outside scoring down to a high mediocre or a low average, but pushes your inside offense up to maybe prominent. The trouble is, less than half your shots will actually be inside shots. The rest of your shots will be modified with your crappy outside scoring rating. Many more will be driving shots for your guards - which is usually not good.

Now, if you go outside instead, let's say you can now put up a proficient outside scoring. The inside scoring rating is no big deal - you only get 20-25% of your shots on the inside. Maybe another 20-25% are 3s, 20-25% long jumpers and 20-25% short jumpers. That means 75-80% of the shots are using your great outside scoring rating.

So, to sum up, when you are talking about teams that can post a respectable or higher outside d rating:

man is the new 2-3 zone
push the ball is the new look inside
patient is the new low post
This is one of the areas where i still dont know how the GE works. If I choose to go outside will I:
1. recive a boost to my players JS, JR and handling in the individual matchup determing the probability of making that shot
2. skew the randomness of the shot (like TIE and CT)
3. only effect the pace and the kind of shots taken
4. recive some other kind of bonus



/Mannen
From: CrazyEye

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119316.20 in reply to 119316.19
Date: 11/27/2009 3:01:39 AM
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it is a mix betwenn 1 and 4, which leads to the point that you take more shots outside then inside because your inside chanches are scrappy(because you get there a point 1 in a negative way).

Last edited by CrazyEye at 11/27/2009 3:02:18 AM

From: Mannen

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119316.21 in reply to 119316.20
Date: 11/27/2009 4:37:16 AM
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Ok,
I imagine the probability of a shot is constituted of several parts, there are the like the shot itself with mainly JS and JR vs OD, some part like Driving and handling vs OD, Passing vs OD and more of a team part where a rating like outside scoring vs outside defence (like the value in the team ratings).
Is this totaly wrong? If it looks like that, do you think the tactic only affects the team rating part (this would be my guess) or the basic skills affecting every part of the calculation?


/Mannen
From: CrazyEye

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119316.22 in reply to 119316.21
Date: 11/27/2009 5:12:02 AM
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i think it is a bit like you are saying:

individual + team rating against individual + team rating from the opposing player, where the skill are more important then the team, and also the tactic gives bonus/malus on both ends. The ability to score from the team becomes also important in shot selection, so if you had an weak individual scorer on the side on strong ones he won't take his shots because he know that they are better oppurtunities for the team.

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119316.23 in reply to 119316.22
Date: 12/2/2009 6:46:27 AM
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Hello everybody.

Yesterday I lost a match and I have difficulties to understand what was the matter. I had an enthusiasm of 11 and I know my opponent had less than that.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/17675983/boxscore.aspx

I played a match against the same team a month ago, with same defence and offense tactics and it happened really differently.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/15646460/boxscore.aspx


So can anyone explain to me what I did wrong? What is the influence of enthusiasm?

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119316.24 in reply to 119316.23
Date: 12/2/2009 6:50:11 AM
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in the first game you lost from stealing!!!i will advice you to play another tactic which will be slower...!!!you lose with 10 points in the other game if you follow a slower tactic you will win with 15!!!

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119316.25 in reply to 119316.23
Date: 12/2/2009 7:01:03 AM
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i am no big fan from the pressing strategy, but against this opponent it worked. 23 Steals are still above average, but 40 are sick i never saw something like that.

So ibelieve you had a lot of luck during game one, which leads to a win. Without the luck, your opponent win this thing.

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119316.26 in reply to 119316.25
Date: 12/2/2009 7:08:29 AM
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josh Calvert's team was the team who lost!!i will agree with you if an opponent play pressing i want to .......him

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119316.27 in reply to 119316.26
Date: 12/2/2009 7:19:32 AM
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oh i switched the schedule, but i think my point should be still clear.

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119316.28 in reply to 119316.27
Date: 12/2/2009 8:20:52 AM
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yes ok you are right!!

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119316.29 in reply to 119316.27
Date: 12/2/2009 8:34:29 AM
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I am thinking to play full court press, against my upcoming opponent. Ive lost 2 games from him, playing CT, 3-2 zone (he is always playing run and gun) and LI. I am desperate actually. I dont know how to face his monster PG. Is that an option? I would love to hear u r opinion. I have tried to use voodoo, for an injury of that player but didnt work, :D so i guess i need an other plan...

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