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170733.19 in reply to 170733.15
Date: 1/16/2011 5:30:44 PM
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So what is the pace like??

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Date: 1/16/2011 9:25:31 PM
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Really, really good post this one. All we need is another 300 to get some quantitative data...

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Date: 1/16/2011 11:52:31 PM
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As asked by another poster, I can't specify how fast the pace was of the game featuring Outside Iso, but...

Knowing he was using Look Inside, a 4 of 5 pace (I'm use a number system to judge pace so that I know, 5 being fastest, 1 being the slowest.

In the past, I've played a majority of Run and Gun, which is a 5 on my system, I'd played a couple of games against look inside. The most recent of which was a game in which the total number of shots taken was 190, with 22 total turnovers. Comparing this to a Look Inside vs Outside Iso game, in which there were 186 shots taken and 20 turnovers, I'd estimate the pace of an Outside Iso offense to be around a 3.7-4.0 on a 5 point scale.

Looking back, I found an additional set of data which might be helpful. Late last season, I played a scrimmage. I hadn't noticed until now that my opponent used Outside Iso (and Outside Box and One). The data is a bit skewed due to players playing multiple positions during the game, but I'll try to estimate to the best I can.

WOW, this data is gonna be hard to sum up about right- one guy played 3 different positions it appears.

SF took about 35 of 101 shots- that's 34.65% of all shots. 13 of those shots were 3 point shots.
SG took about 23 of 101 shots- that's 22.77% of all shots. 16 of those shots were 3 point shots.
PG took about 12 of 101 shots- that's 11.88% of all shots. 4 of those shots were 3 point shots.
PF took about 20 of 101 shots- that's 19.08% of all shots. 2 of thsoe shots were 3 point shots.
C took about 12 of 101 shots- that's 11.88% of all shots. 1 of those shots was a 3 point shot.

The team was much better than me, however, so this data's a bit different than an equil-ish matchup.

63 rebounds for the team, divided 28 to the C, and 15 to the PF.
15 turnovers, 6 of which were given by the PF position.
19 assists, including 8 for the starting PG, 6 for the starting SG, and 4 for the C.

Minutes were divided up in this way:
Pos-Start-Backup
PG-37-11
SG-35-13
SF-44-4
PF-43-5
C-47-1

*The backup for PG, SG, and SF were all the same guy, making the data a bit rough.

The two bits of data on Outside Isolation I have provided show that SF and SG are the primary offensive shooters, similar to Base Offense, but that more of the shots are 3 point attempts. I don't think I'm gonna use Outside Iso much, other than to provide data via scrimmages.