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206723.19 in reply to 206723.18
Date: 1/28/2012 6:47:53 AM
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for the 48min logic, i like the randomness since i don't like so much as the way to train here, and like that it have some downside.(and yes i use it myself quite often)

With 3 injurys it is really ugly on the other positions, but how often such things happen.

And let coach decide is also an alternative, then the selection is relativ smart, and for me this works quite fine at least.

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206723.20 in reply to 206723.19
Date: 1/28/2012 9:07:18 AM
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yar this is true, i cant even remember a game where i had two injuries let alone 3.

although i do remember a golden state game many years ago where both Centres, and both PF's who were dressed go injured, and Chris mullin was playing Centre.

quite an interesting game really.

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206723.21 in reply to 206723.20
Date: 1/28/2012 10:14:40 AM
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3 injuries never happens, but most of the people set up 2 players in each position and it's not so rare an injury and a fouled out player. Or sometimes even 2 fouled out in the same spot.

btw I can't understand people "I'm fine with this absurd thing because...". This isn't about realism, this is about a bit (a bit!) of common sense and intelligence. Coaches can't make these kind of mistakes.

Again: if my training is screwed up it's all my fault and I'm ok with that. I'm NOT ok with throwing a game just because a C is dishing assists to fans instead of team players.

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206723.22 in reply to 206723.21
Date: 1/28/2012 11:53:53 AM
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but when the sg play it to end your training wouldn't screwed up, since you still could fix it since most likely your second trainee come in , at least most would design it as an rescue line.

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206723.23 in reply to 206723.21
Date: 1/28/2012 12:54:11 PM
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Basically you are right, and I think that what is missing here is a definition.

"When there is no backup nor reserved player left for a specific possition, use upon positions (or upon starters positions)."
The last means that if you decided to play your SG as your C, than also the replcament will be (if has) of the same position.

I believe that the above definition that you expect your coach to act upon is a basic design for the coach, and it should be implemented that way.
I don't know how one can say that it is not fair or any stupid thing like that, as it is a basic desicion a coach will ususally take.
And of course much more common than - I'll use my C as my PG.

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206723.24 in reply to 206723.22
Date: 1/28/2012 1:14:38 PM
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but when the sg play it to end your training wouldn't screwed up, since you still could fix it since most likely your second trainee come in , at least most would design it as an rescue line.

Well, no.

Maybe the substitution has already played 48min in that position (if this isn't the first game of the week, this is very likely) and so all the minutes added are useless. Moreover, if you didn't notice, the system swaps many times players, so you will NEVER get a player to play it to end, but your SG will get 10mins, another SG 12mins, the SF 5mins... just an example.
So, managing training is almost impossible in this scenario, you can get a player full training, the other 2 will be like 38mins and 35mins which are still good values, but not the best (now with the cross-training it's even worse).

Again: the point here is NOT training, but that you threw a game, that's the sad part.

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206723.25 in reply to 206723.24
Date: 1/28/2012 1:50:34 PM
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Maybe the substitution has already played 48min in that position (if this isn't the first game of the week, this is very likely


if this pattern is know before i am pretty sure, that in the first two games the backup would make sense for training. And also then you maybe get lot of minutes that it matters at least a bit for the replacement.

And if you swap far away is it most likely like today.

Again: the point here is NOT training, but that you threw a game, that's the sad part.


As i said i am not a big fan of the 48 minute, but when you take away those downside the two position 5 people training which works with injury fouls and backups get even less attractive to 6 player training. And yes i would like the change when, those 48min trick get impossible ;)

(now with the cross-training it's even worse).


that need to be explained to me, did they changed the minutes with it?

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/28/2012 1:51:44 PM

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206723.26 in reply to 206723.25
Date: 1/29/2012 5:31:02 PM
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[...]

if this pattern is know before i am pretty sure, that in the first two games the backup would make sense for training. And also then you maybe get lot of minutes that it matters at least a bit for the replacement.

And if you swap far away is it most likely like today.

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As i said i am not a big fan of the 48 minute, but when you take away those downside the two position 5 people training which works with injury fouls and backups get even less attractive to 6 player training. And yes i would like the change when, those 48min trick get impossible ;)

I'm sorry but I didn't get any of what you wrote, especially the first part :s

The second part again seems different from what I'm saying: do not think about training, just think about a C in PG position is making you lose a game, just because your coach is dumb. It's pointless to have such a system.

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206723.27 in reply to 206723.26
Date: 1/29/2012 5:41:55 PM
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and the first part is, that it affect training, since people would adjust to that pattern.

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206723.28 in reply to 206723.27
Date: 1/29/2012 7:22:41 PM
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and the first part is, that it affect training, since people would adjust to that pattern.

and this is bad because... ?