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From: malice
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Date: 2/10/2012 8:28:37 AM
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@gert...

No offense man - I'm sure you're probably an excellent coach. But we're just coming off a pretty bad appointment - at least as far as a 'community'. Some ended up relatively satisfied... but just as many weren't. I think we're gonna go with one of our own this go-round.
Hey, I might be wrong... but I don't think I am.

Cheers, and all the best.

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From: Rorufu
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Date: 2/10/2012 9:28:06 AM
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In general I prefer a native NT-manager. The guy must show more responsibility than somebody else, especially in such a *small* country like Japan. Most important thing is, than a NT accept inputs from other native managers as well, maybe even create a small team around him to have folks to help him who will scout and monitor players who are spread around the world. There are some countries and manager doing this, maybe it can help to add a little bit more quality to a NT. Carry the whole thing on one shoulder is okay if you have extensive online times. If not I guess it can be a burden ;)...

And as I mentionned before, all managers should put in 2 local heroes as trainees in there slots. That would be wonderful...

The method of learning Japanese recommended by experts is to be born as a Japanese baby and raised by a Japanese family, in Japan. And even then it is not easy...
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Date: 2/10/2012 9:33:24 AM
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I agree. I have only ever trained local Nippon players. I have always done it single position and for a long time it has been with a level 6 trainer. I have never had the best trainees so I haven't had world class results but I do think Kawadia and Konoe contributed well to the U21 team and now Sonada plays well for the NT.

In the far future I would love to see Kawagichi, Umari or "The Skinkansen" make the NT if I can train them well.

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Date: 2/10/2012 10:31:47 AM
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And as I mentionned before, all managers should put in 2 local heroes as trainees in there slots. That would be wonderful...

Easier said than done!

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Date: 2/10/2012 10:36:15 AM
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Malice would like to train bigs

*Would like to*... but the draft has been very, very unkind to II.1 in as far as bigs are concerned. Rubbish.

I *am* training young bigs - just not for Japan.
Khachatryan (20yo) is on the Hayastan U21 side...
Yuen Ling (19yo) will most likely eventually make the HK U21 side...
and Sidaranovas (19yo) will most likely make the Lithuanian U21 side...

I just wish one of those guys could have been Japanese - but not to be. Perhaps one day.

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Date: 2/10/2012 5:15:10 PM
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Finding local players that are worth training at all is a challenge, finding one with MVP potential is a dream that I guess we aspire to one day.

Look at my training history.

Season 14
Daisaku Kawaida allstar now 23 $ 28 878
Norihisa Ushio perennial allstar now 25 $5776
Jotaro Kinjo starter now 23 $ 11 635

Season 15
Daisaku Kawaida allstar now 23 $ 28 878
Noritada Konoe allstar now 22 $ 25 781
a few other randoms.

Season 16
Daisaku Kawaida allstar now 23 $ 28 878
Noritada Konoe allstar now 22 $ 25 781
Atsuyoshi Kyubei perennial allstar now 22 $ 10 565

Season 17
Daisaku Kawaida allstar now 23 $ 28 878
Noritada Konoe allstar now 22 $ 25 781
Takayoshi Kawagichi superstar now 20 $ 13 084

Season 18
Daisaku Kawaida allstar now 23 $ 28 878
Noritada Konoe allstar now 22 $ 25 781
Takayoshi Kawagichi superstar now 20 $ 13 084

Somewhere in all of that I also trained
Yasushi Yokoyama superstar now 21 $ 12 449
Hisanobu Mitsuharu superstar now 22 $ 9 408 (could have been a great SF for us)

Here is the plan for this season.
Season 19
Shinya Umari perennial allstar now 24 $ 59 715
Takayoshi Kawagichi superstar now 20 $ 13 084
Shin Shidehara superstar now 18 $ 2 726

Umari is both my best tranee ever and my worst. He is close to capping and old, on the other hand he has a high salary and obviously great skills.

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 2/10/2012 5:15:31 PM

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