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Despite the warnings, and without really even realizing it, I have fallen into the same trap of getting seduced by the lure of skilled cheap older players. What's done is done, but I justified these expenditures by thinking that even though I have a very small Arena, if I won my league (not likely, but I didn't realize it at the time of purchasing these players) then I could charge really high ticket prices for at least the first half of the season--maybe even the max???

Can some of you BB veterans tell me (a) what is wrong with the strategy of compensating for a smaller Arena with higher ticket prices (will the attendance bump not occur if the prices are too high, for example), and (b) what would be an appropriate price level for a D5 team like Jungle Fever that promotes to D4 with a small Arena, given that investments, foolish or not, have already been made into the veteran players?

Thanks!

Last edited by Knightman at 8/6/2012 12:53:30 PM

You should spike prices for the beginning of a new season after promotion regardless of your arena size. However you should be upgrading your arena as much as possible when you're in the lower leagues. Why? Because the higher you get, the tighter money is due to higher salaried players needed to compete.

There's still a limit to the amount of money you can pull from promoting. i.e. No outrageous prices.

The tool I used is the Attendance Helper on the USA Offsite Forum.

http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/

Also, it'd probably be a good idea to use the entire 200K promotion bonus on the arena. Maybe not all at once, cause you might end up with a long build time, but maybe in two chunks. Personally, I'd do all bleachers at this point.

Wholeheartedly agree. That is, if you promote.

@Knightman

If I was Jungle Fever I would up the price to say $13 for bleachers for the first half of the season and use any money I had to get more seast put in, then at the mid season price change drop it back down once you have the extra seating

Actually I'd charge $15 for bleachers and change to 12 at next opportunity (I think it's the middle of the season).

If you don't promote, I'd buy two 18y olds with P.Allstar potential for small bucks, train them, and try to promote the following season unless you have really bad competition and you can promote with ease. In the meantime, invest in Arena all you've got and try to finish as higher as possible, as you'll be rewarded with nice attendance in next season. And try to win all the away games so you have a full arena at home.

He's a decent trainee, but don't buy 18y olds now as they will turn 19 in few weeks. Wait until the draft. Oh, and don't pay attention to estimated prices, they are wrong most of the time.

Ok, I did not see the first one is only starter potential which is pretty bad. You overpaid for him, and the other 18y old is not good enough. He has decent guard skills, but he's 6'11 which means he cannot be trained as a guard. He cannot be trained as a center either because he's got awful inside skills. All in all, I wouldn't train any of the guys you bought. Except for the first one (Starter potential): train him for few weeks and then try to sell him to get some money back, if you can.

Btw, this is the worst possible period for buying 18y olds: Those that are properly trained are expensive, and those who are cheap are usually not trained at all and lost one season of training.

Patience is the most important thing in this game. If you buy and sell by impulse, it will bite you back fast. If you don't have at least a mid-term plan (1-2 seasons in advance), you will find yourself asking after two seasons things like "Why didn't I buy a higher potential" or "Why didn't I add a trainee here two seasons ago". Do you want to train next season and not promote? Then don't buy players with high salary, because you don't need them.

Wait until after the draft. In that period there is a lot of rookies on transfter list, so P.Allstar potential is very cheap to find. But don't jump to first one you see; choose 10-15 rookies you like (bid 1.000 each one of them or bookmark them) and you will be able to get one or two for very cheap.

I'll get back to the team I'm mentoring again: Manager bought this player (23055333) for 1k. If he didn't train Stamina so much, he'd been a candidate for Polish U21 NT now. Maybe he could enter his U21 in the middle of next season if trained conservatively, but he's being trained very uniqely, so he won't make it.

EDIT: One more thing I didn't think of, because it seems "natural" to me now: Both trainees should share the position. So buy either two guards or two inside players. In your place I'd buy two guards.

If you buy guards, shoot for:

P.Allstar potential
6'4" or less
Sum of six guard skills at least 25-30 (JS, JR, OD, HA, DR and PA)

If you buy inside players, go for:

P.Allstar Potential
6'10" or more
Sum of four inside skills at least 20-22 (IS, ID, RB and SB)
Guard skills shouldn't be all at Atrocious - HA should be at least 3; other guard skills above 1 is a bonus (PA being most important after HA).

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/7/2012 3:55:58 AM

adding to what koperboy said, make sure they have good OD to start with (if guard: 6 or 7 is a good start) and if you want a pure PG then 6/7 PA would be great for a start. If you want a big, then something like this will be good:

IS: 5-7
ID: 6-7
REB: 4-5 (it raises salary)
SB: 5+ ( I like SB)

and if you look t the height here is my criteria for positions and height

PG: 6'1'' and lower, the smaller the better
SG: 6'2''-6'4'' want them to score, that's why it's shooting guard
SF: (out-side oriented) 6'5''-6'6'' (if you want an outside SF with some good-decent inside skills, this height is the way to go.
SF: (inside oriented) 6'7''-6'8'' if you want a post player that can go inside, but have decent outside skills, like let's sa 10-11 OD then here is the right place.
PF: 6'8''-6'11'' tall guys but I've seen PFs have a little JS/OD on them, but not like a SF, more like 8-10 JS and 8 OD is a PF with about p. allstar po. as an average.
C: 6'10''+ the taller the better+faster inside skills will pop.


well this is mycriteria when looking to buy a trainee (in the future)

if a BIG: I'm training 2 bigs right now, but IF I want a third one then I like to see my fav skills around 6-7. if you want a guy who actually has nice secondaries (like me I like HA, PA, DR, and OD on my bigs a lil) then go for him. If he has good potential but cheap, go for him. I literally stole a superstar trainee for 50k when he's supposed to go for at least 150k. right now if I ever wanted to sell him he would go for 350-400k.

if a guard: almost same criteria, but have a little preferance. Guards tend to have some weak links sometimes, like I've seen some guards when I cruise around the TL with an atrocious in something. only skill I think you want atrocious on a rookie guard is JR. You want a guard that'll do good in your future. I've heard that some people love to train guards cause a lot of them keep them, and guards these days don't come cheap......let me explain....

In this game, it has become a BIG league where bigs control the game, making LI pretty popular, and no tactic can stop it. with those guards if you even want an oldie, they go for 300+k on the TL. I was lucky to even find catandil for 150k....so train guards is my advice.....anywyas sorry for the long post but hope this helps