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226147.19 in reply to 226147.16
Date: 9/2/2012 11:23:11 AM
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lol ived learn the basics from zyler


What basics were they? Clearly it wasn't the ability to string a proper sentence together :-p

Maybe he tried to pass on his cheating secrets :O Omg maybe zyler is lance Armstrong!!!

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226147.20 in reply to 226147.19
Date: 9/2/2012 5:10:01 PM
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Now now comparing zyler to lance armstrong is a bit far fetched. Lance is an icon and he was with sherryl crow.

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Date: 9/2/2012 9:32:15 PM
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I think a lot of people misunderstood his directions and, worse, followed them half heartedly. He also said, on many occasions, to me and emphasised it well, that playing "his way" was high risk. Sometimes it paid off and sometimes you'd get burnt. I think that some people got burnt then cried about it, blaming him when I'm fairly sure he made it clear the risk/reward possibilities.

From: Axis123

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Date: 9/2/2012 9:35:24 PM
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...but you're all welcome to jump on the "hater" bandwagon if you like. It's the easiest option when everyone else does it.

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Date: 9/2/2012 10:27:43 PM
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What you say Axis makes a lot of sense and probably the way zyler played was high risk/high reward. You would have to say though that generally their wasn't any real great reward and results from his team. He was just bouncing between div2 and div3 blaming the world along the way.

What he may have done well is put new div4 teams under his wings who thanks to him still play this great game. So he wasn't all bad I guess.

Last edited by tremell at 9/3/2012 6:07:27 AM

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226147.24 in reply to 226147.20
Date: 9/2/2012 10:30:06 PM
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Off topic what is everyone's thoughts on the lance Armstrong drama? I still have full respect for the guy...

From: Axis123

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226147.25 in reply to 226147.23
Date: 9/3/2012 4:07:29 AM
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Liked everything you said and was going to ball you, then came the STD thing.. Didn't get that.

From: Axis123

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Date: 9/3/2012 4:09:07 AM
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The best answer is that we don't know. If he actually did use drugs to enhance his performance, then that's pretty uncool. If not, it's sad that all this had to happen. We don't know, though.

What he's done since his competitive days I have respect for, though.

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Date: 9/3/2012 4:19:54 AM
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I have no doubt that he doped.. he just never got caught... I am of the mindset that if someone is spouting bullshit and innuendo about you, you fight it with every breath... to simply give up, says i am guilty, and hopefully the facts dont go public now...

If there wasnt an American running the UCI, I think it would have been a completely different journey for Lance.. 1 day the truth will come out, and guys like Pat Mcqaids heads will be on platters...

From: mllama

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Date: 9/3/2012 4:27:45 AM
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He probably did dope. Where there is smoke, there is fire generally.

But given the rate of doping in cycling, its probably likely that a few of the people who came 2nd in the tour de france in the years Armstrong won it probably were doping to (I believe a few of them had a history of doping as well).

Regardless of whether he doped or not, to come back from life threatening cancer and win six tour de frances in a row is still a damn fine achievement.

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Date: 9/3/2012 4:29:54 AM
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Let's be honest, the 90s was full of doping by most of the cyclists. Just that catching the big fish makes headlines. At the end of the day, the sport is heading in the right direction but this era is paying for last era's shame. A massive PR nightmare!

Last edited by Whitebeard at 9/3/2012 4:30:25 AM

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