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228503.19 in reply to 228503.18
Date: 10/19/2012 11:06:44 AM
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yep, exzactly:)

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228503.20 in reply to 228503.19
Date: 10/20/2012 7:20:07 AM
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At this point he is still a year younger and will easily have more skill points over the life of the player.

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228503.21 in reply to 228503.20
Date: 10/20/2012 10:12:10 AM
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they both gona cap either late this season or at start at next season. the only disadvantage is the guy i drafted older will play 1 season less in his career for my team:D

From: FuriousSK

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228503.22 in reply to 228503.20
Date: 10/20/2012 1:33:45 PM
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your assuming 100% activity in developing the 18 year old into a good player. This circumstance unfortunately does not occur often within the lower ranks, as people are not as interested in this game at times and either are off and on inactive, or are at least incorrect in development.

So while a veteran of 3-4 seasons that plans on really sticking around might learn how and correctly build the 18 year old up, it's not a forgone conclusion that everyone will, and therefore is mostly dependent on how much time the person is investing into this game.

From: Tesse
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228503.23 in reply to 228503.22
Date: 10/22/2012 10:35:08 AM
Cruesli
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Also don't forget that if the 19 yr old player is ahead it actually saves you some training time as well. You could get more pops in his 18th year which could make the 18 year old guy a better player, but you are getting the extra skills on the 19 yr old for free without having to train him.

So yes there are definitely cases where the 18yr old is way better:
- on the transfermarket (19 yr olds sell really bad imo)
- if you want to get him to the U20
- if he has a really high cap and you want to get everything out of it.

But if you are a team that cannot afford really high level players in the future going for the 19yr old might not even be that bad.

Personally I want to try to get players in the U20 and I want to train players with high potential to their max and have them stay with me forever. But that's not everyones goal.

bit messy writing, hope the core of my point comes across.

Crunchy! If you eat fast enough
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228503.24 in reply to 228503.23
Date: 10/22/2012 6:38:50 PM
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I started training an 18 year old last season. By the end of that season he had 69 total skill points. Your not going to get a 19 year old rookie with that many skill points. Big advantage for 18 year old.

From: Tesse

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228503.25 in reply to 228503.24
Date: 10/23/2012 8:53:36 AM
Cruesli
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That is of course true. But I'm only saying that you should also take into account that this cost you a season of training as well. Not saying the 19 year old is better just saying don't forget about the investment in time and trainingminutes that it also costs.

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228503.26 in reply to 228503.25
Date: 10/23/2012 2:31:32 PM
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Time and training minutes that you are going to use regardless.

Its not like:
18 year old + trainer + time + money
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19 year old & everything is hunky dory

Might as well train the better future player.

If you remember me, then I don't care if everyone else forgets.
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228503.27 in reply to 228503.26
Date: 10/23/2012 6:00:05 PM
Cruesli
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you are missing my point.

One last try with an extreme example.

If it wouldn't matter at all (trainingtime) then a 10 yr old all atrocious player with high potential would be best according to what you just said. After all he has a lot of years to train.

But the trainingtime you have to put in him to get him at that age where he is a great player for his age is still valuable.


Crunchy! If you eat fast enough
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228503.28 in reply to 228503.27
Date: 10/23/2012 6:34:10 PM
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I see that part of it in an extreme case. Getting 12 to 16 skill points during that first season changes things on a more typical player. I would think that almost every new player has thoughts about getting to DII or DI. Your best bet would be with an 18 yr old superstar or better.

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228503.29 in reply to 228503.28
Date: 10/23/2012 11:20:10 PM
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It really comes down to what your team needs. You dont need or want 8 200k players in your side.

So getting a 19 year old you can train to a solid level can still be very useful even in top levels. But if you are chasing you franchise player to take you all the way then a 18 year old is a better option.
I have no issue with getting a 19 year old for a couple of reasons.
1. Most teams don't interview them so put them at bottom of list so more likely to get them.
2. A 19 year old 5 ball is still likely to finish with higher skills then a 18 year old 4 baller. One will hit a wall with age and one with potential.
3. Being 19 means they are no chance of the junior NT so you train them as it suits your team and plans which can make it easier. Not that I have a problem with that it can just make it easier.

I have found 3 lots of 5/5 guys in my draft but not all are 18. Will be happy with either of them. Would prefer one over the others but in the end a 5/5 19 year old suits me better then a 5/4 18 year old. Superstar would be ok but if they are Prem Allstar I can't get them to the level I want/need.

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