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Yeah, I remember that season. You were shaking in your boots. Yeah, right:-)...I think this Cup game could be the Game of the Week!

1. AZ Desert Storm

2. Technical F

3. World Toys

4. USA Elite / Reston Thumpers

5. USA Elite / Reston Thumpers

6. 6 or 7 other teams ...

Road Record

#1 AZ DS (5 - 1)

#2 Reston (4 - 3)

#3 WIT (3 -3)

#4 Tech F (2 - 4)

#5 USA (1 - 5)

#6 OYSH (2 -4)

#7 10" (2 - 5)

#8 Delta 9 (2 - 5)

#9 Dog River (2 - 5)

#10 AZ Cacti (2 - 5)

#11 GSW (2 - 5)

#12 For. Juv. (2 - 5)

Road Record

#1 AZ DS (5 - 1)

#2 Reston (4 - 3)

#3 WIT (3 -3)

#4 Tech F (2 - 4)

#5 USA (1 - 5)

#6 OYSH (2 -4)

#7 10" (2 - 5)

#8 Delta 9 (2 - 5)

#9 Dog River (2 - 5)

#10 AZ Cacti (2 - 5)

#11 GSW (2 - 5)

#12 For. Juv. (2 - 5)

maybe the most useless "statistical analysis" out there - ranking just behind number of blocks in the 4th quarter while playing at home and up by more than 20.

Big 8 has 2 teams not trying, did you play one or both on the road? interconference we play once, some play one or both on road some both at home. Who played Jason at his place - The other half of teams don't get that game recorded....
How about games tried to win? With teams in the cup, some league games are given away, especially on the road.

Road wins, especially at this point of the season, especially when one side as teams tanking all season long is meaningless.

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maybe the most useless "statistical analysis" out there - ranking just behind number of blocks in the 4th quarter while playing at home and up by more than 20..

Interesting you say this...I was thinking the exact opposite when I saw his post. I think that road wins are actually the best indication of a teams strength.


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Big 8 has 2 teams not trying, did you play one or both on the road? interconference we play once, some play one or both on road some both at home. Who played Jason at his place - The other half of teams don't get that game recorded....
How about games tried to win? With teams in the cup, some league games are given away, especially on the road.

Road wins, especially at this point of the season, especially when one side as teams tanking all season long is meaningless.

Obviously there are games that people tank, and cup considerations and all that. But that said, the best teams in any league generally try to win them all, and don't think about punting a game because they believe they can win them all. Obviously there are circumstances when you draw a solid cup team, and have two solid league games that week as well, and you simply can't play your A team 3 times in a week....but with as strong as HCA is in BB, a team that win games on the road is a clear indication of their strength. Mediocre teams can beat very good teams at home....Mediocre teams never beat good teams on the road unless the home team plays something less than their A lineup or a fluke Crunch or something.

Great posts Dmitri. way to get a good discussion going :-)

I completely agree with you, but you missed the point of my post and the clarification I made at the end.

"Road wins, especially at this point of the season, especially when one side as teams tanking all season long is meaningless."

My team is the perfect example. I think most would agree that I have a top 5-ish team in this league. Based on what you said (which I agree with), a top team should win most game, think they have a chance on the road, thus not tank, and should win a good chunk of road games. If I have a better team than most, I should be able to overcome the HCA and win road games. However, we don't play every team in a home and home series. I play the 7th and 8th seeds from big 8 at home this season. A massive scheduling issue that my team has to overcome. This means I have a drastically different strength of road games. I will end up playing 3 of the 4 big 8 playoff teams on the road this season. Also, I have a solid cup run going and hopefully will have the opportunity to throw some more league games to continue to advance in the cup. Considering the strength and competitiveness of the G8 this season, there is no chance I will throw a home game, but will always pick the road game if I need to manage mins, advance in the cup, train, etc.

I fully expect my team to finish with a sub .500 road record this season even though I have a top team that is battling for the 2 seed and potentially HCA in the finals to advance to nbba.

My point was, and is, that this specific season, with the big 8 having 2 teams that wouldn't finish in the playoffs in d3 and a 3rd punting/ saving for qualifier series, while our side is falling over each other to outspend the next team, road wins isn't as good of a metric as it is in most seasons. In fact, it is quite meaningless, especially as a ranking system.

Road wins do matter, always will and always will separate teams from each other. If you can't win on the road, you almost never make the playoffs. This season is very different and deserves an asterisks.

Hey guys! Tonight concluded Inter-Conference play, so that means the next of Power Rankings :-)

Please submit your votes to me by Friday night Midnight EST. We had a great voting turnout last time, so lets see if we can do that again!!

Also, one small request :-) I have had some voters get a little creative with their votes...if you would, please vote all 16 teams. I have some submissions where only the playoff teams were ranked, or top 10...as much as I appreciate the effort, that means i have to fill in the blanks to inlcude your votes, and I would rather the votes be completely from you :-)

Remember also, feel free to include commentaries on your votes, and if you wish to remain anonomous with your comments, just let me know :-)

I have only received 2 sets of votes so far....if I dont get at least 3 more, it's not worth doing. Get your votes in! :-)

I recently heard that late night drunk lists are more legit with better comments as well.

Just because not enough people voted doesn't mean you aren't still number one. No need to go and buy another six figure/ wk center to pound into our heads that you're the team to beat.

zing!