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From: LooKA

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Date: 2/13/2013 6:19:29 AM
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there are people who care more about NTs than about their own team,actually theres a lot of those people.its not everything in profit...our former u-21 coach prolonged his promotion for a couple of seasons just to train,u understand where im going with this?
about players salary-half decent D3 team can pay those without problems.
about the staff,u can train well with lvl 4 coach who cost like 100k and have 10k salary.
and 1 more thing,if u are not training a player for your own team but for profit,get 3 trainees and train primarys only,after 2 seasons u can sell 2 main guys for 1M and 3rd guy for 500k minimum without any problems.

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From: Pewu

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Date: 2/13/2013 8:21:17 AM
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Well, this thread like Wolph is hipocritical and cheap. My post was clearly stereotypical. Each time he writes about NT, next sentence is about farming if it was cheating. Of course those teams have multiaccount, because he can't understand people can devote their teams strictly for NT.

According to the topic, it's funny that suggestions how to train gives a man, who trained 1 player in his entire career. However I have to agree with Wolph, that multiskilled players are much more worth than players with only primaries.

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From: Knecht
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Date: 2/13/2013 8:56:09 AM
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Training balanced players is first and foremost the best decision from a business point of view. Austrias NT has a player that sold for more than 5 mil - in this f ed economy where 5 mil can buy you a championship roster this is huge.

I myself trained players to become multiskilled (SF) or at least be very special (high IS on a SG) and those players perform way above their salary level and sold for millions despite their relatively low potential (Allstar and perennial Allstar).

So instead of riding the player hater bandwagon, some of you guys should appreciate the advice given.



Last edited by Knecht at 2/13/2013 8:56:52 AM

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From: malice

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Date: 2/13/2013 9:13:24 AM
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Nicely said. +1 for you sir.

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Date: 2/13/2013 10:11:21 AM
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Wow. Just wow, so many people defensive and taking a good helpful RECOMMENDATION and taking it personally.
I saw many very true, very valid, and very helpful things said that I as a mentor try to get across to those I help. I too agree that some players get wasted, yes you can waste a player by training them poorly, by being poorly trained. Yes those players can be helpful in d. IV and V but I would hope people are aspiring to be in higher divisions than that. Also I could not justify paying 100k for a player salary that can't be a successful long term fixture for my team in league levels where his salary wouldn't be detrimental to me anyways.

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From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 2/13/2013 11:27:05 AM
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you are comparing guys with VERY good secondaries to guys with ONLY primaries. I think this is senseless because nobody who reads the forum is training only primaries.

rather you should compare a trainee (PF/C potential 7-8, height 6'8'' or sth, 5-6 seasons training, because i guess this is how the majority of trainees esp. for beginners looks like)

should he rather look like this:

12 / 8
10 /12
14/10
13/13
13/10

or like this

8 / 4
8 / 8
10 / 8
15 /15
15/ 10

well I guess my question isn't so smart, because in this case we compare a good C against a very efficient PF. but what i wanted to say is, that you have to find a good relation between secondaries and pimaries and not go over the top.


Except that you're using a build with 8 PA and HA as the *low* point in the comparison. I know I just did a search on the TL for giggles for a minimum rebounding of sensational and there are more guys with exactly 1 in both HA and PA than there are with at least 8 in both.

I think there are plenty of people that read the forums that are still churning out the same three-skilled donkeys that litter the TL, whether it be for NT/U21 reasons or ignorance or whatever else. If everyone was getting their secondaries to maybe 6 and this thread was pushing for them all to be double digits, of course, that's a different discussion, but I think wolph's efforts here are dead accurate. There's simply a whole pile of crap players on the TL at any given time because they have been turned into crap by people who are training them like crap. ;)

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 2/13/2013 11:31:47 AM

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