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World Champoin and U21 World Champion from mamba
he has got all can be achieved

Yes that should be a detriment to his achivements. In order to be competitive you need to have good national team players (because it gives you vital extra income). Managing the U21 and/or NT gives you a huge advantage in terms of knowledge of the best players or prospects in your nation and also gives you knowledge about when they are and are about to come to the market. I don't think you wanna stress this point about the Chinese manager.

The guy won like 14-15 straight titles in His top division, winning also when he was the underdog. Let that sink in for a minute. 4 titles when the game was less scrutinised and understood just means he was head and shoulders aheahd of anybody else. Look how the rest of the guys won the B3: either tank tank tank then buy the title or manage the U21/NT take the best players for yourself and take advantage of the extra income. In any case all recent victories in B3 have gone to high spending teams (except maybe Mloty). you pay=you win is not the same as you're a smarter and better manager=you win. I dare say at the beginning winning 4 straight B3 was difficult than it is today, exactly the way it's going to be difficult to do that in Utopia (with the difference than in Utopia the level is even higher).

Edit: it was 'only' 13 titles after all

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/2/2014 1:16:20 PM

Count also brand42 of boston celtics from italy as one of the best managers, 12 national titles 5 national cups. He never go behind semifinals in B3 and hasn't titles with nt/u21 so probably there's something with better showcase.
Has anyone win national league+national cup+B3+u21 and nt titles?

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/world/standings.aspx?teamid=59&view=4s17

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/world/standings.aspx?teamid=59&view=13s18

this is not a big success but you can see that i use from max Potential of our NT team . the best result in asian games in our NT history

or mamba won WC...

sorry for bad English

btw best manager can't be only who's able to win spending 2 milion roster a week, the best one is who's able to be competitive with the lowest salary

I didnt say i'm the best manager or i'm a good manager ... :D

i only said a list that i think ...

plz when you want to say a sentenses about me , tag it on me :D

Normally someone in the top league would not be allowed to manage the NT or U21, because of a conflict of interest (i.e. you picking a player rather than another has an impact on your opponents' and your finances). As far as I have played this game, no D1 manager in England has ever been allowed to manage the NT. China might have been different, because in a bigger country the top league doesn't weigh much on the total users and in the community.

Managing the NT gives so many unfair advantages to a D1 manager who gets elected, which, as I said, should be counted as a minus for the best manager discussion, not a plus.

Of course, it is also debatable that a manager who wins with the NT or U21 with one of the top 6 nations in BB (by users) deserves that much credit if he gets to a WC semifinal or regional final.

Edit: Btw the Canadian guy won 13 in a row not 14-15...but even 13 straight that's way past a generation of players. Nobody's ever lasted that long at the top (winner) in his own nation as far as I know. At some point you need to rebuild and someone will slip past you or you will have to demote so that you can train. See where Mamba is now. But yeah 12 titles in the largest BB country sure does make his case quite compelling.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/2/2014 1:19:39 PM

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Why did you think I'm talking with you? This is my personal opinion, you won a lot but for sure you are not the only one that had high salaries, believe me nothing against you, otherwise yes I would answered directly to you, that's not so difficult :p

But yeah 12 titles in the largest BB country sure does make his case quite compelling.

Italy in fact is the largest BB nation, closely followed by Spain. There are another 5 countries bigger than China. 6 if you wish to include Utopia, which isn't a country, and while I'm rambling off topic, Utopia should never ever be considered as a country.

On the subject of Utopia, since we're all anointing in advance the first champion of Utopia as the best ever BB manager, if his team immediately blows up because he commited everything in a speedy charge for the top, knowing he'd never win another championship once Utopia reaches maturity, will he still be the best ever?

On the subject of Utopia, since we're all anointing in advance the first champion of Utopia as the best ever BB manager, if his team immediately blows up because he commited everything in a speedy charge for the top, knowing he'd never win another championship once Utopia reaches maturity, will he still be the best ever?

My point was a counter to the opinion that someone in the early days cannot be considered the best manager because 'it was easier', 'less competitive', you name it. My take is that the early days were similar to Utopia in a way and calling that 'easier' is just ludicrous.

If the first manager to win the Utopia D1 title blows the team up after his 4th season, that would be exactly the same as those managers who have blown up a team after going deep in the B3 tournament, except that even getting in D1 in Utopia will be in itself an accomplishment which less than 2% of the managers in Utopia will achieve. In order to get there, the winner will have had to go through 3 promotions and I'm highly doubtful a manager who will have managed such a great exercise between payroll and arena expansion for 3 seasons will go bust after the 4th: it would be like doing the opposite to what he's done in the previous 3 seasons. We'll see.

In any case everyone has different criteria. We should just have a poll with the names and the achievements listed.

Having been around since season 3 and seen a lot of good to great managers, I think only Mloty and Dionsyus come close to BC Toroo as the best-managed teams. The BC Toroo teams were a lot better than anyone else, and JBM Crock went to Brazil and won well, quickly.

But I would definitely place BC Toroo first, Mloty second and Dionsyus third, with maybe a shout out to King Drive Ballers as another top manager, and a German team who's name i can't remember, which was very good for a while without resorting to boom/bust economics.

Last edited by Elmacca at 11/2/2014 4:56:14 PM