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288893.19 in reply to 288893.17
Date: 8/25/2017 9:31:26 AM
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So you're also of the opinion that if Kawhi Leonard or Pippen or Rodman or Big Ben or any good defender in the NBA played against D-League competition or in the CBL, they would have had the same stats they did in the NBA? You want ro check the stats of old NBA players in the CBL?

Even Nachmahr seem to aknowledge his stats are somewhat underwhelming for his skills. You think he woyld have had the same blocks against 17-21 IS players instead of 9-13? These are the players my guy guards every game. So yes stats and context are critical in this discussion. And I'd be also wary of small samples...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/25/2017 9:33:10 AM

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288893.25 in reply to 288893.20
Date: 8/25/2017 5:21:05 PM
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My argument is that Haek is a flawed player. Just like that Croatian with 21JS 22JR 15PA etc. In trying to accomplish too much you get nowhere: his outside skills were of limited worth when defending inside and his inside skills of limited worth when defending outside. This is why his stats don't look eye-popping. A player like Jagermeister makes more sense to me. Nachmahr moved on, I'm pretty sure his next project won't have 55 defensive skills or he will forego HA and PA training for something else.

The bottom line however is that IS helps, because blocking only help if you can reasonably stop the opponent's flow with the rest of your team and in a lot of cases making the open shots is all you need to make games. A player with 5 IS will miss a lot of open layups, a player with 13 or 14 not so much.

In addition, and this is a point that would have been valid but nobody made, the GE also adjusts to mismatches so in Haek case he probably defended less shots than he should have in D3, because the opponents avoided the bade mismatch. So you have a player who is so good in defense and only in defense, that his defensive prowess gets exploited by the opponents and he has very little to contribute on the other side.

Edit: I see Nachmahr made the point above BUT my point still stands.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/25/2017 5:23:13 PM

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288893.27 in reply to 288893.26
Date: 8/26/2017 5:19:55 AM
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Yes and that is exactly the problem. It's a trade-off, but it's hard to understand what is more beneficial overall.

To me however, a certain amount in shooting skills is required. It's like someone shooting 36% from 3 in the NBA: It's average, but you it will keep the defense honest.

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