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I'm saying that the divisions will be divided too soon into Rich - less Rich- Normal - Poor... from Div I - III .. especially since this is still a new game. You shouldn't be looking at the economics and such at this point. The real objective is to get enough players to play first and then get the economy flowing. And then get the player-data base healthy with skilled players. The problem now is that when you do throw in all the good players in the TL. The rich teams will get them while the poor teams are just watching how they get snatched in front of their eyes. Normally these kinds of players wont see the day light in the TL. That's why drafting and training is so important to get the players. You let them grow to be good. instead of replacing the crap ones with the bot ones. My point is that it destroys the TL and it will be less attractive to start a team in the long run. It was completely fine before the change. Some people just complained to get easy good players... and it works.. not knowing that it might destroy the community.

The rich teams will get them while the poor teams are just watching how they get snatched in front of their eyes.

Then the "rich" teams will sell off some players since they upgraded. Again, with a greater number of good players on the market overall prices will go down, which is in what way bad for poor teams?

Normally these kinds of players wont see the day light in the TL.

And the money they rich teams didn't spend would what, disappear? They'd still have the money so that at some point, they would snatch up the smaller supply of good players.

That's why drafting and training is so important to get the players. You let them grow to be good

It's not like you can build every position through training, at some point you have to go to the transfer list to upgrade. Only now, there will be better players available for the same money since the supply of players is better. The moral is, if you train and in turn win and get more ticket revenue, you'll be able to benefit easier from a better supply of good players on the TL than the teams that don't.

Some people just complained to get easy good players... and it works.. not knowing that it might destroy the community.

??? huh...

Let me again point out that these players are, by and large, really not that good.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnZ3qzIwmlw)

Edited by brianjames (11/26/2007 10:49:38 PM CET)

Last edited by brian at 11/26/2007 10:49:38 PM

They are still EASY replacements for the backups you have. For real, they are not that good compared to what you have, but for the other teams who probably have and allround inept player. Especially since the game is young.. we don't have many prominent players... that is why at this time it's free give aways for the rich people. They are in our eyes good players at this moment. Why not just let the game grow normally.

Curious that an undefeated team in Holland's top league knows so much about what bottom division teams can and can't afford. I'm gonna have to agree with jprochnow and brianjames here. The prices of these bot players are, for the most part, pretty dang cheap.

Oh, that reminds me. You have BB-mail. Do you really think I could've bought that center from a human team for only $34k?

At what price though.. that's the point. They'll sell the players at probably equal as they bought the good once since they can control the economy that way. That is how it's gonna work. Good teams buy the good players... sell their old ones... make a profit and the poor teams will get a player that's probably overpriced.
With this system.. The richer get richer... the poor just get to be poor with a few leftovers.

You fail to understand the meaning of 'let the game grow by itself'. I'm not saying you should NOT go to the TL or you should get good players only by training. You can easily let the players grow from training. One team trains focuses on inside the other on inside. That way players grow 'naturally'. The other team buys the other teams trained outside players. I don't even know why I'm explaining this. This is just a matter of common sense. Just put 2 and 2 together.

I don't have any objections about the transfers.. the only problem i have is that the release of botified players will eventually effect the community. I find it ironic that no one really thought this through before implementing. Now that's it's implemented.. people are trying to find excuses to keep it alive. You can't deny it does have an impact on the community. There is no major reason to let the botified players on the TL. NT players i understand, but the botified ones i don't. There is no way a team will make reasonable profit by selling a player in his team who's less skilled that the ones on the botified market.

And by the by.. when you quote... give a proper argument on that particular quote. Quoting me on "Normally these kinds of players wont see the day light in the TL." and answering with "And the money they rich teams didn't spend would what, disappear? They'd still have the money so that at some point, they would snatch up the smaller supply of good players." is not even remotely valid.

Read... They sell the old players for about the same amount as the ones they bought. Buy good players for 500k ... sell the old ones for 500k.