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136516.191 in reply to 136516.189
Date: 3/29/2010 1:48:04 PM
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Look,if you want to shuffle them every season, then would be better to not have conferences at all and just have 1 table like in football league.

When I saw this conference system at first, I was happy to have it here, because it even create an opportunity to focus more on just few key teams to beat down and the playoff is yours.

Your red paranoea is based just on that there has to be probability that it should be like 50/50 in overall but it is not. Well I can tell you that teams are not just a numbers, I would be very suprised if there would be the equilibrium. I can understand that it sounds scarry if you look at it by this way, but these things happens, it is just a collor, thats all.

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136516.192 in reply to 136516.189
Date: 3/29/2010 1:50:12 PM
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now i will say on the other hand.. the R conference winning 64 out of 96 times is significant.

that should only happen .03% of the time!

maybe the red color has some psychological effect on the spanish and they feel stronger being on the red team.. where as the blue conference makes them think of italy, and therefore makes them feel weak.

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136516.193 in reply to 136516.192
Date: 3/29/2010 1:50:56 PM
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I remember reading about a study about the calming effects of blue..except for in males in italy because blue reminds them of their soccer team and it makes them excited rather than calm.

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136516.194 in reply to 136516.193
Date: 3/29/2010 1:54:38 PM
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Maybe red collor attracts the capability.

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136516.195 in reply to 136516.192
Date: 3/29/2010 2:05:03 PM
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now i will say on the other hand.. the R conference winning 64 out of 96 times is significant.

that should only happen .03% of the time!

maybe the red color has some psychological effect on the spanish and they feel stronger being on the red team.. where as the blue conference makes them think of italy, and therefore makes them feel weak.


We are portuguese
But we do have more red on the flag than the other colours!


Of course we shouldn't just rely on number and actually I only looked into 6 seasons in the III division. But I know that teams that have a stronger conference will put more effort on the maintenance and therefore will also have better teams than the other conference. And my guess is that is why we have teams winning always from the same conference. As I said.. 70% of the teams that win the division are from the same conference as the last champion! (For Division III in Portugal in the last 6 seasons)

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136516.196 in reply to 136516.191
Date: 3/29/2010 2:11:51 PM
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But the conferences also state with which teams you'll play twice!

I am just pointing out that I do feel there is not an equilibrium! And again.. I may be wrong due to my small sample!

I don't have a red paranoea, I just counted the teas that win from each colour. It was just funny to realiza that most of them were from the red conference!

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136516.197 in reply to 136516.188
Date: 3/30/2010 10:31:38 AM
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I pointed on that, because in present system of Revenue, especially Attendance Revenue, it could happen sooner or later in every country if there are no bots. Only in my eyes our country reached this equilibrum earlier than the others. For example in Slovakia there have been several bots in last 3 seasons among top managers (2 of 4 best team ended), but some of them left the game according to lost of motivation, because there were still one of 4 teams even if their effort was lower.
I really don't think all this 9 teams in our country I mentioned are still here because of running better, but because of staying in Div I for long time and have much better conditions, well-balanced rosters because of permanently higher budget. I think if some of them change the team (hypothetically) with some top Div II manager, they will stay in their positions and not change the position, because they are managers of similar level of managing abilities.

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136516.198 in reply to 136516.197
Date: 3/30/2010 2:48:58 PM
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I pointed on that, because in present system of Revenue, especially Attendance Revenue, it could happen sooner or later in every country if there are no bots. Only in my eyes our country reached this equilibrum earlier than the others. For example in Slovakia there have been several bots in last 3 seasons among top managers (2 of 4 best team ended), but some of them left the game according to lost of motivation, because there were still one of 4 teams even if their effort was lower.
I really don't think all this 9 teams in our country I mentioned are still here because of running better, but because of staying in Div I for long time and have much better conditions, well-balanced rosters because of permanently higher budget. I think if some of them change the team (hypothetically) with some top Div II manager, they will stay in their positions and not change the position, because they are managers of similar level of managing abilities.


I have something to add - I have just recieved my first gate receipts this season after relegation - $ 198 670 and that is after winning previous league game (by 18) and after reaching quaterfinals in the cup previous season. That is about 300k less than I usually got last season. I posted in bug forums because I have arena with more than 18k seats and there were problems related to that at the beginning of Season 11. Otherwise I would have to consider that number a bad joke. Since unbalanced conferences I had no chance to stay above, it is not my fault I was relegated - I actually tanked whole half of the season to get the very first pick of the draft as there was nothing else to compete for. Now the game is officaily telling me it doesn't want me to have a fair shot to close the gap. I will lose more money in gate receipts (in comparison to what I was getting the last time I was in Div 2) than what I got by promotion bonus. Only because strongly better gate receipts and favourable draft order it was economically worth it to get promoted. Having fun wise, surely not.

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Last edited by docend24 at 3/30/2010 2:52:43 PM

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136516.199 in reply to 136516.198
Date: 3/31/2010 12:48:01 AM
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I think you need to adjust your ticket prices...
When the local soccer team in my town went from J2 to J1..They raised the ticket prices by 30% and then when they were relegated the next season, they dropped the prices again..
BTW,, I do think you are right in the fact that, the difference from the top division to the 2nd division is too great..They should look at teams in the EPL, Leeds united were relegated but they still sell out their arena every week..I think they need to right in a code for years of existence, where a season 5 teams gets more than a season 8 team in the second Div. due to the fact that they have a bigger fan base due to the years in existence....peace

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136516.200 in reply to 136516.199
Date: 3/31/2010 12:08:31 PM
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that's a bad bad idea...yet the older teams are in a better position that the newly born teams,in this way it will be impossible to reach the top divisions for them...

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136516.201 in reply to 136516.199
Date: 4/2/2010 8:40:54 AM
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If they are going to look at the EPL, they are not just going to look at examples which suit your argument like Leeds United. They will look at how ALL relegated clubs have fared over the last 10 years or so to gain a truer perspective.

Also, why look at just the EPL? Why not Le Championnat, Primera Division, Serie A, Bundesliga etc? Is it because you can't think of many relegated clubs who sell out every week from those countries????


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