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Among MANY players here in my country, I AM one of the managers that complained about having foreigners invade the country. Not because of xenophobia, but because we want to play with Uruguayan dudes. "Cultural integration"? Maybe in the fairy-tale idealistic world of some of the managers that put the "cultural-integration" argument forward that could work. But me, and many guys, I think we have the REAL world to culturally integrate. I would definitively not spend many minutes integrating in BB, no offense to BB, really, I love the game and I'll play it for many seasons to come.

But here in Uruguay... I don't know, maybe we do business different: we go out in the street, hang around, have many foreigners and stuff [actually, the country is historically made from immigrants], really. But for playing BB, we want people that understand our codes, our idioms, so we can share our local jokes and local products, etc, etc. And do you think we will have a blast about the "Henry's Swing Club", or whatever name your practical jokes or local idioms have? Am I suppose to culturally integrate with a Chinese or Russian or Pole dude speaking English? And why do we have to speak English? Why doesn't he (or you) speak Spanish, or me Polish or Russian? Yeah, right, we will not miss the manager that expects also to learn Russian or Polish or Spanish in BuzzerBeater.

Anyone standing behind the argument of "cultural integration" DOES NOT understand how Culture works. Believe me, I'm a nice guy and I love We are the world We are the children, but let's get realistic for a moment here: in what possible real-world a reasonable person could expect to culturally integrate in a sim sports game? Besides, like someone else said in another thread: how do we know all these foreing managers invading a country aren't actually hard-headed racist apes, nationalist orangutans? I don't think we can say for sure we have more john-lennons that kkks in BB. I wouldn't like a racist messing with my Uruguayan community, even if that person is actually Uruguayan.

And now we have people that doesn't like the new country Utopia BECAUSE OF THE NAME??? Really? In a game called "BuzzerBeater"? C'mon, man... Just play the damn Utopia or just don't play it.

And the manager having nostalgia for Australia, dude: can't you have enough Australia in Youtube or Facebook or the online FM radios/TV stations, newspapers, forums or whatever product the Australian cultural industry can manufacture, that you NEED the Utopia country to have "a real name"? I mean, geez, it now looks like BuzzerBeater is the biggest and most important cultural-gathering site in the world.

I'm going to play Utopia because of the characteristics it has, I don't care what's its name. It could be called The Henry's Swing Club Empire, I don't care. Just like I didn't care BuzzerBeater wasn't named after a real basketball league. I really REALLY hope the BBs get the administration of the leagues right, and actually move everybody together, so people doesn't play with bots frequently. You could say that the rate of "botification" in Utopia will be very very low, compared with the regular country botification rate [since managers would be losing two teams, not one]. So maybe we should expect a lot more stability in league's structure. Perhaps Utopia actually creates more international interaction between managers than the now obsolete nation-invading project. Think about it.

Last edited by petrosian at 3/9/2014 3:13:39 AM

I think it's important to differentiate between user advantage and team advantage. I think it is great that BB has avoided allowing players to pay money to gain an advantage for their teams and this new announcement continues that. Allowing players to buy second teams gives them an advantage in the sense that they can get more enjoyment from the game through competing with two separate teams, but I don't see how this is different from the current supporter program that allowed users who want to pay to enjoy features like private leagues and flag/trophy collecting.

So I'm guessing that since you think it is not fair that users can enjoy the second team feature by paying real money you also think that the supporter package is unfair for the same reason?

Personally I think it is great the the developers are trying to find ways to add to the user experience with optional paid features that do not give teams an in-game advantage.

100% agree with you and I wish more people saw it this way. I was going to write something along the lines of that in response to some of the people, but you explained it excellently. Allowing managers to buy host nation trainees is the only thing I am eery about, but everything else I am fine with. The way I look at this is BB is like taking a hard class in college. Just for kicks and giggles lets say that the college provides you a textbook for that hard class and it has all the information you need in order to be successful in the class. Now you find another textbook for that class that costs money. It has slightly different information but helps you understand the class better and gives you a better opportunity to learn new things and gain new information in the class. It is not cheating that you have bought this other textbook but it does help you become more prepared for the class. Strange analogy and I hope it made sense, but that is how I look at this.

Any updates on how many have signed up for a second team? How about a counter somewhere on the site?

I started a thread with a vote on it to say whether you have joined as yet.

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