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30905.192 in reply to 30905.191
Date: 10/24/2008 9:11:51 AM
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To further the discussion, both mr_burns and I have predominately used a sf with skills much closer to Hederman than any of the ones used previously on the Canadian team, and we have done alright. Showing this formation would at the very least keep teams from ever considering a 1-3-1 unless they were just gambling.

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30905.193 in reply to 30905.192
Date: 10/24/2008 11:33:43 AM
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Who would you prefer at SF for an inside focus? Herderman or a guy with prominent IS and ID, with respectable+ in all the guard skills?

Just curious.

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30905.194 in reply to 30905.193
Date: 10/24/2008 11:55:00 AM
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I would usually prefer your option, but if say herderman had wondrous or tremendous inside shot, i would go with him if i was playing look inside.

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30905.195 in reply to 30905.185
Date: 10/24/2008 2:50:25 PM
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Just wondering - since our fate for the NT is pretty much set, any chance you will release the U21 players for Paulo to use? Or do you still think we can make it to the next round?

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30905.196 in reply to 30905.194
Date: 10/24/2008 7:03:27 PM
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I would too... how about this tho?

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30905.197 in reply to 30905.195
Date: 10/24/2008 7:20:16 PM
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we still have 2 games...

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Date: 10/24/2008 8:01:42 PM
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we still have 2 games...


I think you are effectively eliminated, but I may not understand the NT so bare with me.

There are only 4 spots to go to the next round. Chile is playing Deutschland in the next game. One of those teams will have a 3-3 record after the game for sure. They both have a higher differential (you are a -83, Chile is a -17, Deutschland is +10). Also, you would still have to get past Australia.

In other words, it is a one in a billion chance (if that). Even if you win your last two games, the best you could hope for is a tie for the last spot but you would still lose out on point differential.

On the other hand, Paulo is still actually playing for something. His back is against the wall and he needs the help for Monday's game. You have guys with twice the talent of the U21 and they would really make a difference.

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30905.200 in reply to 30905.198
Date: 10/24/2008 9:50:01 PM
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we still have 2 games...


I think you are effectively eliminated, but I may not understand the NT so bare with me.

There are only 4 spots to go to the next round. Chile is playing Deutschland in the next game. One of those teams will have a 3-3 record after the game for sure. They both have a higher differential (you are a -83, Chile is a -17, Deutschland is +10). Also, you would still have to get past Australia.

In other words, it is a one in a billion chance (if that). Even if you win your last two games, the best you could hope for is a tie for the last spot but you would still lose out on point differential.

On the other hand, Paulo is still actually playing for something. His back is against the wall and he needs the help for Monday's game. You have guys with twice the talent of the U21 and they would really make a difference.


It's a very good point. U21 team could sneak into 3rd place with the national team players. What does the national schedule look like after this round? Do they need the players back again soon?

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30905.201 in reply to 30905.200
Date: 10/24/2008 11:34:46 PM
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NT will need the players for the start of the new season, new coach will be without a team if I drop them...

If U21 makes it farther with players from current NT, they will be there a while, NT won't make it too far without them either. It's complicated matter, really

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30905.202 in reply to 30905.201
Date: 10/25/2008 8:27:32 AM
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Both teams will have offseason enthusiasm resets (in the NT case, under a new coach) to get their rosters back in shape.

Assuming you think the NT can't do anything more now, the only reason not to give the players to the U21 is if you don't think paulo09_ca can be trusted or depended on to give players back who will still be <=21 in the new season. And in fact, there are no players who are 20 right now on the NT.

So, it doesn't seem like a complicated matter at all. Drop the 21-yo's now, period.

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