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From: FenXas
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218937.193 in reply to 218937.191
Date: 6/3/2012 4:47:12 AM
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As I see we need forget about tanking and do think about other improvements

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218937.195 in reply to 218937.191
Date: 6/3/2012 5:11:09 AM
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The fan survey is an issue.


But if you punish teams that loses, you would also punish teams that want to fight, have relatively high salaries and still finish last with record for example 7-15. What about teams that can't actually afford high levels of doctors (for example me) and have relatively have high salaries and constantly have lots of injuries and loses because of that. Punishing forfeits maybe smart at first glance, but I've seen teams that uses forfeits in the second finals game so they don't get injuries in the third, so it's a good strategy not tanking. What you are proposing about punishing teams because they are losing, I think will only make a lot of unnecessary constrains on other teams, that don't make profit from losing.


What you're talking about is not punishing people for no reason. In fact, it's not punishment at all. It is a part of competition. If you make bad decisions, you lose out financially. If a team has a very high salary roster, and they lose, there is a reason for that: some form of tactic, whether it is to do with the game engine, or it is something else to do with the way they manage their team.

I, and many others, would prefer to lose money and BB prowess from messing up tactics or managing badly than being part of the group who doesn't tank.

The other thing you mention, about injuries, is luck. That is part of everything we do, including this game. The trick is to minimise the possibilities of for negative results.

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218937.196 in reply to 218937.195
Date: 6/3/2012 6:19:48 AM
Ghost Masters
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Again someone will have to be in the last place if that team is for example newly promoted, has small arena and spends all it's money to have competitive roster and fights to survive, but just doesn't succeeds why it has to be punished the same as tanking team. This is why BB asked what is tanking team, so that we omit teams that uses loses for strategic purposes or don't have intention to hoard large amounts of money and want to survive but still loses. IMO affecting tanking teams through fan survey would be a bad choice.

Last edited by Ghost Master at 6/3/2012 6:20:44 AM

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218937.197 in reply to 218937.196
Date: 6/3/2012 6:32:37 AM
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if that team is for example newly promoted, has small arena and spends all it's money to have competitive roster

...then they aren't managing their team properly.

There is the promotion bonus to help teams that move up a division. Also, a part of the fan survey is for "last season". If a team promotes, they will score highly there. I don't think it's realistic to move up a division and to expect to do well in that division straight away. It should be something that you have to work up to.

If a team makes good decisions, they should be rewarded. If they make bad decisions, they should be penalised. The fan survey is a fundamental part of this.

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218937.198 in reply to 218937.197
Date: 6/3/2012 6:45:58 AM
Ghost Masters
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There is the promotion bonus to help teams that move up a division.


Which they usually spend to expand their small arenas.

If they make bad decisions, they should be penalised.


No word about tanking, it's sounds like - penalise all losers there must tanking team amongst them :-)))

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Date: 6/3/2012 8:14:13 AM
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There is the promotion bonus to help teams that move up a division.


Which they usually spend to expand their small arenas.

If they make bad decisions, they should be penalised.


No word about tanking, it's sounds like - penalise all losers there must tanking team amongst them :-)))

They should be upgrading their arenas throughout the season in the lower div. Either that or they can save money throughout the season.

I don't think you're getting the idea, anyway. No one is suggesting that the manager who comes in last place receives no money, or next to no money. It's the managers who sell all their good players, and get consistently beaten by 30-60 throughout the season who need to be penalised. And this is fair enough. Who would want to go watch a game like that?

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218937.200 in reply to 218937.199
Date: 6/3/2012 11:07:20 AM
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It's the managers who sell all their good players, and get consistently beaten by 30-60 throughout the season who need to be penalised. And this is fair enough. Who would want to go watch a game like that?


The guys who want to be a lucky fan, so that maybe they can get signed to a contract.

From: FenXas

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218937.201 in reply to 218937.194
Date: 6/3/2012 3:01:20 PM
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You???... Again!!!! :D

From: DWeezy
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218937.202 in reply to 218937.201
Date: 6/3/2012 4:25:37 PM
Rochester Grizzly Adams
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The game was made to let the manager make the decisions. Not to be penalized for doing somthing other owners don't like. I just tanked last season and it killed my bottom line with loss of attendance. At the end if that's the strategy they want to use because they think it will help them long term then let them use it. Who are you to tell them otherwise. You should be happy that they are giving you wins.

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